Your soul mate composers...

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M forever

Quote from: Brian on January 17, 2008, 08:48:31 PM
Maybe he breeds pigeons? I had the same question.  ;D

Or maybe he also used to work as a butcher.

rubio

I feel most related emotionally with Bruckner and Shostakovich, but I love the music of Bach and Beethoven at least as much.
"One good thing about music, when it hits- you feel no pain" Bob Marley

Harry

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Pettersson, no doubt....., and Tchaikovsky naturally. :)

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: paulb on January 17, 2008, 09:59:11 PM
They say in religions that a  unified soul is best. = just one lone composer.

I wonder how much our answers reveal about ourselves. Some choosing like 10 composers. if this a  sign of division, a  spilt personality, or maybe the poster is still in his personality forming stages, that is  has to "find himself'?

Or maybe it's because we are all individuals with unique personalities, very different than any one composer. Therefore we need several composers to satisfy different aspects of ourselves. For example, Mahler and Bruckner are often lumped together but they couldn't be more different. And yet I feel in tune with both; in fact, I couldn't imagine life without these "soulmates."

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

ChamberNut

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 18, 2008, 04:29:38 AM
For example, Mahler and Bruckner are often lumped together but they couldn't be more different.

Well said Sarge! I'm not sure why they are often lumped together?  And if someone says the length of their symphonies, think twice....Mahler's symphonies are on average well over 10 minutes longer per symphony.  I think it's about 12 minutes or so actually per symphony.  I had checked it out awhile ago.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 18, 2008, 04:29:38 AM
Or maybe it's because we are all individuals with unique personalities, very different than any one composer. Therefore we need several composers to satisfy different aspects of ourselves. For example, Mahler and Bruckner are often lumped together but they couldn't be more different. And yet I feel in tune with both; in fact, I couldn't imagine life without these "soulmates."

Sarge

Don't forget the meaning of the word 'composer' - someone who puts things together. Aren't we all 'composite', needing a 'composer' for every 'part'?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Ten thumbs

Definitely different parts of the soul but all have something in common:
Scriabin, Chopin, Fanny Mendelssohn, Schubert and Medtner.
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.



M forever

No, but thanks for asking. Are you inferring there is something wrong with being gay? Tchaikovsky was.

Marcel

Quote from: M forever on January 19, 2008, 01:10:10 AM
No, but thanks for asking. Are you inferring there is something wrong with being gay? Tchaikovsky was.

I know he was. No, there is nothing wrong with being gay. For me Tchaikovsky is number one composer naturally, and I am not a gay. Should I have to be... after that... ?  8)

longears


vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

not edward

Listening to the Berwald symphony cycle today reminded me that he's probably a composer who belongs here for me.

There's something so wonderfully human about how he keeps doing the wrong thing and making it work (well, perhaps not that horrid transition to the coda in the finale of the Singuliere, but for me his weirdnesses come off way more often than they don't).
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

Don

Quote from: edward on January 22, 2008, 04:48:02 PM
Listening to the Berwald symphony cycle today reminded me that he's probably a composer who belongs here for me.

There's something so wonderfully human about how he keeps doing the wrong thing and making it work (well, perhaps not that horrid transition to the coda in the finale of the Singuliere, but for me his weirdnesses come off way more often than they don't).

"Doing wrong things and making them work" is an apt description of Berwald's music.  Personally, I prefer to consider the things he does as "alien", but the results are the same.

paulb

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 18, 2008, 04:29:38 AM
Or maybe it's because we are all individuals with unique personalities, very different than any one composer. Therefore we need several composers to satisfy different aspects of ourselves. For example, Mahler and Bruckner are often lumped together but they couldn't be more different. And yet I feel in tune with both; in fact, I couldn't imagine life without these "soulmates."

Sarge

Agree, I was just making that comment partly in jest. As we all have our defining composers. We are composites in nature, the ying/yang concept is part of our nature, Jung's contrasexual components in our natures, introversion/extroversion sides to us, 4 functional characteristics to us.So its most unlikely just 1 composer will define our essense.
I think some will notice how their choice in composer today, will be different in the future.
Though Harry seems to be well set in his choices, Pettersson /Tchaikovsky. As i am in mine.

That is funny how Mahler sometimes gets paired with Bruckner. I have done that in the past, "Mahler AND Bruckner"  ;D  why i am not sure ::)
. And yes i realize they are quite opposites. I think it has to do with the fact they were contemporaries and both syms are long, and both are of  prussia.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: paulb on January 23, 2008, 01:31:49 AM
both are of  prussia.

I think you mean Austria, Paul... I don't know any great Prussian composer (although Frederick the Great played the flute and composed...)

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

M forever

Quote from: paulb on January 23, 2008, 01:31:49 AM
And yes i realize they are quite opposites. I think it has to do with the fact they were contemporaries and both syms are long, and both are of  prussia.

Mahler and Bruckner have a whole lot more in common than you think, but that would probably be too difficult and time-consuming to explain to someone who doesn't know the difference between Prussia and Austria. And Mahler wasn't Austrian either. He was a subject of the Austro-Hungarian double monarchy, but not that much more Austrian than Dvořák or Janáček.

Quote from: Jezetha on January 23, 2008, 01:37:08 AM
I don't know any great Prussian composer

If you want, you can count Mendelssohn a little since he was born in Hamburg, but grew up and studied in Berlin. Not that it matters much though.

greg

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 18, 2008, 04:29:38 AM
Or maybe it's because we are all individuals with unique personalities, very different than any one composer. Therefore we need several composers to satisfy different aspects of ourselves. For example, Mahler and Bruckner are often lumped together but they couldn't be more different. And yet I feel in tune with both; in fact, I couldn't imagine life without these "soulmates."

Sarge
Exactly, i've thought about this, too.....
i think we all have energy to express ourselves in some form(s), emotionally, and it's manifested in music. Listening to music is like fulfilling the desire to express ourselves emotionally in that way, at that moment. Sometimes your favorite composer doesn't exactly cut it for a specific time- for me, i'm more likely to be in the mood for Prokofiev in the morning (lighter, more inspired and imaginative music) and then late Mahler/Shostakovich Symphonies for the evening (deep, expressive music). It's just like having energy to eat at certain times more than others.

And I suppose how we decide our 'soulmate composers' may be a combination of the short term (how satisfying the music is) and long term (how much we go back to it, or how much energy we have for it).

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: M forever on January 23, 2008, 01:51:03 AM
If you want, you can count Mendelssohn a little since he was born in Hamburg, but grew up and studied in Berlin. Not that it matters much though.

A shame. I thought you'd care, being a Prussian, M(ark Brandenburg) forever!  ;)

Johan
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato