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Quote from: Leo K. on October 29, 2020, 06:15:14 AMThese are good thoughts to contemplate and helps me immensely. I've recently listened to his String Quartet No.3, Cello Concerto No.1 and his Piano Concerto No.1 and these are all so different I was very surprised and couldn't stop thinking about it! I like the satire, irony and witticism in so many moments and his style is making me reassess Mahler (one of my all time favorite music) in a new light. The Rondo in Mahler's 9 for example, which I never really liked, is now likeable after hearing Shostakovich.Seeing that a lot of his symphonies are Mahlerian (in form and structure) and Brucknerian (adagio interiority) in scope (to some extent), this helps me contextually grasp Shostakovich better too.
Quote from: amw on October 29, 2020, 02:33:31 PMI've increasingly come around to the view that Shostakovich's greatest achievement is his vocal music—for that reason the 14th is my favourite of his symphonies but some of the other orchestral song cycles (& songs with piano/chamber accompaniment) are equally good.In this respect I guess he's also comparable to Mahler, of whom my favourite symphonic work is probably Das Lied von der Erde, and whose songs in general are consistently superlative whereas his symphonies are sometimes a bit uneven from movement to movement etc.But I have generally come to like the symphonies a good deal despite their unevenness or whatever, even "weaker" entries like numbers 3 and 12. I think only 5, 7 and 10 still haven't done much for me at this point, whereas I do enjoy all of the others to varying extents.
Quote from: relm1 on October 29, 2020, 06:53:34 AMAlso keep in mind that like Mahler, Shostakovich is multi faceted and layered. No. 5 is popular because on its surface it is an exciting and bold work but at a deeper level, there is alot a struggle and determination. Much of his work is like this. No. 10 uses his initials as a major subtext around the artists struggle and persistence but most people will just hear it as a repeating tune. It's sort of like a fine meal. You might like beef but at its best, the meal would be a journey through balanced flavors and textures. I think if you like Mahler, Shostakovich is a natural fit.
Quote from: Leo K. on October 30, 2020, 06:27:04 AMListening to the 10th Symphony now (Michael Sanderling) and you're right, on the 3rd listen you feel those other layers resonate and hum.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 30, 2020, 10:30:56 AMThe Tenth is a huge fave of mine.
Quote from: Christo on October 31, 2020, 10:51:37 AMHeard it live in the Concertgebouw a couple of times, twice again in recent years - and live it works best IMHO.
Quote from: Christo on October 31, 2020, 10:51:37 AM- and live it works best IMHO.
Quote from: vandermolen on October 30, 2020, 03:21:48 AMIt's No.13 'Babi Yar' which I hardly ever played and which I now regard as one of the greatest, especially since hearing Haitink's recording.
Quote from: Leo K. on November 02, 2020, 06:33:09 AMThank you I am going to seek this out!
Quote from: aukhawk on January 25, 2023, 01:17:05 AMAccording to Presto, only 5, 6, 8, 9 of those are conducted by Mravinsky (and the credits for 9 look a bit dubious), the other two are Kondrashin (with a different orchestra). No dates are given, no booklet offered.
Quote from: j winter on January 25, 2023, 08:04:43 AMThanks for that... it would be rather annoying if some of them aren't even Mravinsky at all, but what the heck. I have the classic Kondrashin set (Melodyia with the spectacles on the cover), so I'll have to compare -- hopefully they are at least different from what I already have.For some reason the "Denon Essentials" banner at the top made me think this was a digital version of actual CDs, I guess not. At least it was cheap, and the performances seem good so far, whoever they are! For the record, as far as Shostakovich sets go, for a long while I have owned (and given insufficient attention to) Kondrashin, Haitink, Rostropovich, and Barshai, and have this week added downloads of Patrenko, the partial set from Sanderling on Berlin Classics, and the above "Mravinsky." Plus I have some singles from the usual suspects (Bernstein, Ormandy, etc.). I also have the Temirkanov Sony box on order, after greatly enjoying his Tchaikovsky set (which is what started me on my current Russian music binge... I go through phases).I listened to Patrenko's 4th on my way to work this morning... excellent performance I thought, beautifully recorded (judging from my car's speakers, so take that with a pound of salt). It ended up being slightly longer than my commute though, so I ended up having to stop 5 minutes from the end... I may run an errand at lunchtime just to finish it off
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 25, 2023, 09:03:53 AMTemirkanov's account of the Leningrad was perhaps the first to really sell the piece to me.
Quote from: relm1 on January 25, 2023, 04:21:17 PMWhat do you think of Bernstein's/CSO? That interpretation brought Maxim Shostakovich to teers as it was a live performance, and he was in the audience. To me, that is the pinnacle of this work to which all other interpretations are compared. Yes, yes, it is Shostakovich by way of Mahler but that is also the essence of Shostakovich.
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