Started by karlhenning, April 25, 2007, 12:02:09 PM
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Quote from: Bill on April 25, 2007, 06:38:45 PMI have not finished Haitink's cycle (only have four of them), but his will be my direction over the next few years. Thanks for the review George. I thought I was missing something, but Haitink seems to be the perfect fit for me based on your post.
Quote from: SonicMan on April 25, 2007, 06:22:40 PMSteve - OK, I was about to 'buy into' the Barshai set in the past, now the Jansons recordings interest me - both received 4+* on Amazon, and are about $50 or so on their Market Place, so cost not an issue. I own Jansons in other recordings - so, would Jansons be a good 'first' choice in these works? Thanks - Dave
Quote from: George on April 25, 2007, 04:52:06 PMI have heard some of his work with other composers, but not with DSCH.Do you have the Aulos issue?
Quote from: Harry on April 26, 2007, 03:01:50 AMBarshai is for me the set!And plenty of sets to complement it.
Quote from: Steve on April 26, 2007, 04:40:08 AMHarry, have you heard the Jansons? I, too enjoyed the Barshai, but with the Jansons you get a first rate orchestra and significantly better sound quality.
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on April 25, 2007, 04:19:06 PMStrength: entire set costs about the same as a SINGLE CD from Hyperion !Weakness: None whatsover.
Quote from: Harry on April 26, 2007, 04:49:53 AMThe Jansons is a fine set overall, no doubt about that my friend.That said, the orchestra Barshai works with is a excellent one, and the sound is very good too, so I have no complains there, furthermore the way Barshai handles the music, his lucidness, and firm tight lines brings a openness to the music, that allows me to dive deeper into the emotional side of Shostakovich. Second on my list is Haitink, before Jansons, for Haitink brings saneness into the sometimes hectic music, and finds rest in places that appeal hugely to me. Thirdly comes Klaus Tenstedt, for the fire and passion, and the logical approach.So better sound quality with Jansons as with Barshai?, well not for me.
Quote from: Steve on April 26, 2007, 04:59:50 AMStill, its nice to have the BPO backing any recording
Quote from: donwyn on April 25, 2007, 09:14:14 PMHaitink is the the strictest of the three. He keeps a very watchful eye on the musical line and allows nothing of an exaggerated nature to get by. He's content with making his musical points from the inside-out and substitites fireworks for a strong sense of architecture...as well as providing a level of refinement that's second to none. I wouldn't say his approach is 'deliberate' for that connotes 'yawnsville'. No, the guiding hand that is Haitink is too imaginative for that. But it takes patience. It's not Shostakovich with the burners on, here. It must be allowed unfold at a decent pace or the effect is nil.
Quote from: donwynAs far as Jansons he sees things through a more dynamically diverse lens than Haitink. More kaleidoscopic and rhythmically contrasting. More, well, "elbow room" to his approach. Refinement, as such, is less prominent. But nothing is left to chance and everyting sounds beautifully thought-out.
Quote from: karlhenning on April 26, 2007, 05:15:34 AMI?d like to add the odd comment. I think actually that Haitink?s architecture works splendidly in (say) the Seventh and Eighth, particularly. The first movement of the Seventh is tough to carry off, and if Haitink does not quite achieve the brillance of either An?erl (in the celebrated mono recording) or of the Gergiev/Mariinka performance I heard live in Worcester, Mass, Haitink?s is nonetheless a high success. Haitink?s Eighth I?d call roughly on par with the Jansons (with the Pittsburgh Symphony). I?ve not heard strings sound as good in the Fourteenth as the Concertgebouw in the Haitink. Haitink?s Thirteenth is overall a marvelous job. That is certainly the case of those few Jansons recordings I've heard: the Eighth, and a particularly outstanding Tenth and Fifteenth.
Quote from: Harry on April 26, 2007, 04:49:53 AMSo better sound quality with Jansons as with Barshai?
Quote from: DavidW on April 25, 2007, 07:10:46 PMKarl, have you heard Mravinsky in Shostakovich? If so, did you like his style of conducting?
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