Haydn Piano Trios

[Steve]

Looking to explore these acclaimed works. Any suggestions?

[Harry]

Looking to explore these acclaimed works. Any suggestions?

On the label Philips and Brilliant you find all you want to have Steve!
Both budget, I might add.

[Gurn Blanston]

There are 3 good choices. Depends if you prefer modern instruments or period.

First, Beaux Arts Trio. The ultimate modern instrument version. Can't go wrong.

Trio 1790 on cpo is up to volume 7 of their complete cycle. I have all 7 and am very pleased with them. On the chronologically earliest ones (vol. 7, #34-39, IIRC) they use a harpsichord, but the first 6 are on fortepiano, and very nice.

Finally, the Van Sweiten Trio on Brilliant, complete set. I have read nothing but good about these (here and elsewhere) but I haven't heard them personally. This might be your best choice for value, too. 



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[Harry]

There are 3 good choices. Depends if you prefer modern instruments or period.

First, Beaux Arts Trio. The ultimate modern instrument version. Can't go wrong.

Trio 1790 on cpo is up to volume 7 of their complete cycle. I have all 7 and am very pleased with them. On the chronologically earliest ones (vol. 7, #34-39, IIRC) they use a harpsichord, but the first 6 are on fortepiano, and very nice.

Finally, the Van Sweiten Trio on Brilliant, complete set. I have read nothing but good about these (here and elsewhere) but I haven't heard them personally. This might be your best choice for value, too. 



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Agreed on all counts. I forgot the CPO, which I bought extremely cheap last year.
So Philips/Brilliant/CPO.

[rubio]

Agreed on all counts. I forgot the CPO, which I bought extremely cheap last year.
So Philips/Brilliant/CPO.

This HIP set is just fabulous!

[head-case]

Beau Arts is a standard recommendation, but I found them too heavy in Haydn, not the required sparkle and rhythmic verve.  Trio 1790 is the way to go, superb on all counts.

[Gurn Blanston]

Beau Arts is a standard recommendation, but I found them too heavy in Haydn, not the required sparkle and rhythmic verve.  Trio 1790 is the way to go, superb on all counts.

Yes, I would agree with that. I wish I could compare van Sweiten with Trio 1790, but alas, not yet. Trio 1790 is superb though...




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[Bogey]

Beau Arts is a standard recommendation, but I found them too heavy in Haydn, not the required sparkle and rhythmic verve.  Trio 1790 is the way to go, superb on all counts.

I would agree that they are not light.  However, I would say they have a shadowy darkness about them rather than a heavy handness.  Just my take.  Having said this though, I absolutely love this Beau Arts set Steve.  

[Gurn Blanston]

I would agree that they are not light.  However, I would say they have a shadowy darkness about them rather than a heavy handness.  Just my take.  Having said this though, I absolutely love this Beau Arts set Steve. 

Well, there is certainly nothing heavy-handed about their playing. It is the sound of modern instruments that adds weight to these works, which weren't built to carry that much. Obviously why I prefer the HIP sets...



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Haydn Baryton Trios - Hsu Miller Arico - FJH Trio #087 in a for Baryton, Viola & Cello H 11:087 2nd mvmt

[Bogey]

Well, there is certainly nothing heavy-handed about their playing. It is the sound of modern instruments that adds weight to these works, which weren't built to carry that much. Obviously why I prefer the HIP sets...



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Haydn Baryton Trios - Hsu Miller Arico - FJH Trio #087 in a for Baryton, Viola & Cello H 11:087 2nd mvmt

Does not really matter when you got

Haydn Baryton Trios - Hsu Miller Arico - FJH Trio #087 in a for Baryton, Viola & Cello H 11:087 2nd mvmt

playing my friend! 

[Gurn Blanston]

Does not really matter when you got

Haydn Baryton Trios - Hsu Miller Arico - FJH Trio #087 in a for Baryton, Viola & Cello H 11:087 2nd mvmt

playing my friend! 

True enough, who can argue with that?   



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K 196c/292 Sonata for Cello & Bassoon - Hübner / Latzko - K 196c/292 Sonata in Bb for Bassoon & Cello 1st mvmt - Allegro

[Haffner]

There are 3 good choices. Depends if you prefer modern instruments or period.

First, Beaux Arts Trio. The ultimate modern instrument version. Can't go wrong.

Trio 1790 on cpo is up to volume 7 of their complete cycle. I have all 7 and am very pleased with them. On the chronologically earliest ones (vol. 7, #34-39, IIRC) they use a harpsichord, but the first 6 are on fortepiano, and very nice.

Finally, the Van Sweiten Trio on Brilliant, complete set. I have read nothing but good about these (here and elsewhere) but I haven't heard them personally. This might be your best choice for value, too. 



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Gurn said it!

[Sean]

Looking to explore these acclaimed works. Any suggestions?

As with most Haydn these works lack much individuality, but as a whole inhabit a particularly refined and cool minded world.

[Steve]

On the label Philips and Brilliant you find all you want to have Steve!
Both budget, I might add.

There's only a single recording on both labels?

[FideLeo]

As with most Haydn these works lack much individuality, but as a whole inhabit a particularly refined and cool minded world.

True...the reason may be that Haydn was more accustomed to the pattern of conceiving and writing his works in groups (of 3 or 6) than either Mozart or Beethoven.  

[Steve]

Any thoughts on the Vienna Trio? I generally prefer my Haydn, "hip", so I'm going to be looking into the Swieten.

[Harry]

There's only a single recording on both labels?

Brilliant has one complete recording, and Philips also, so far as I know. together with the CPO recordings, it is the best on the Market Steve.
The Van Swieten, and the CPO recordings are both HIP, and very good.

[Bogey]

Hey Steve,
A while back DavidW sent me a single disc from the Beaux Arts Trio.  Since then I have purchased the entire set.  I am sure he would not mind me passing it on, so you are welcome to the cd if want to give this ensemble a try.  Just drop me a PM.

[SonicMan46]

Brilliant has one complete recording, and Philips also, so far as I know. together with the CPO recordings, it is the best on the Market Steve.
The Van Swieten, and the CPO recordings are both HIP, and very good.

Steve - I'd have to go along w/ Harry and some of the others; if you want a HIP version, the 10-CD Brilliant Box is hard to beat! (mid-$30 range on the Amazon marketplace, and excellent reviews there, also) - it's the one I have currently; also have a Beaux Arts disc and prefer the early instrument approach for these works (but HEY, I have a lot of Beaux Arts CDs and love the group - would not hesitate to duplicate these works if the price was right); I've not heard the CPO offerings, but I do have the Trio 1790 on other CPO recordings and enjoy them tremendously - my bottom line is that I'd likely be 'happy' w/ any of these performances - 

[Steve]

Steve - I'd have to go along w/ Harry and some of the others; if you want a HIP version, the 10-CD Brilliant Box is hard to beat! (mid-$30 range on the Amazon marketplace, and excellent reviews there, also) - it's the one I have currently; also have a Beaux Arts disc and prefer the early instrument approach for these works (but HEY, I have a lot of Beaux Arts CDs and love the group - would not hesitate to duplicate these works if the price was right); I've not heard the CPO offerings, but I do have the Trio 1790 on other CPO recordings and enjoy them tremendously - my bottom line is that I'd likely be 'happy' w/ any of these performances - 

Thanks, Dave

$33.29! What a bargain. Although, I'd still be interested in a 'modern' rendition, I'll be adding this one to the cart very soon.