Started by vandermolen, March 02, 2008, 01:52:04 AM
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Quote from: Jezetha on March 02, 2008, 02:25:58 AMI know Christo is a fan, because he recommended him to me... I have listened to seven symphonies so far (under Järvi, on BIS). The ones I like most are the First, Fourth and Sixth.
Quote from: vandermolen on March 02, 2008, 12:27:33 PMNo 2 "Legendary" is one of my favourites too.
Quote from: Jezetha on March 02, 2008, 12:37:11 PMI find the opening of the Second magical. And the rest of the symphony is strong, too. And yet, and yet - I feel as if Tubin revisits the First and hides it by shuffling its elements around, so that the march becomes the centre of the work instead of the ending. In short - the Second convinces me less than the First, it seems less original.What do you think?I want to add: I only know the Järvi performance. Perhaps that makes a difference. Christo preferred Volmer...
Quote from: paulb on March 02, 2008, 07:15:59 AMI heard clips
Quote from: Catison on March 07, 2008, 08:05:06 PMI have found Tubin to be a great discovery. The pieces that really sold me were the 3rd and 6th symphonies, particularly the first movement of the 3rd and the second movement of the 6th. The rhythmic cohesiveness of the themes is so well done. There are always new things to hear in the music. It is a shame I won't have the opportunity to hear any of these symphonies live.
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 09, 2008, 06:54:18 AMHere's a review of a recent SOBR concert that included Tubin 5:http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2008/03/ionarts-at-large-neem-jrvi-tubin-and.html#linksSarge
Quote from: Jezetha on March 09, 2008, 08:55:23 AMExcellent review. I must give the Tubin Fifth another chance. It didn't impress me on first hearing as much as #1 and #4 and #6.
Quote from: violinconcerto on March 14, 2008, 01:28:15 AMHello!I lately read that the Symphony No.2 "The legendary" by Eduard Tubin is for violin, viola, piano and orchestra. Are there really three soloists or are these just promeninent solo parts for the orchestral members?
Quote from: Jezetha on March 14, 2008, 01:56:32 AMHi, violinconcerto! No, there aren't three soloists. As far as I can remember violin, piano and viola have important parts, but "The Legendary" is not a concerto of sorts, but a real symphony.Okay, I listened to the Fifth again. I have a big problem with the first movement. Yes, it has all the Tubin trade-marks - it is driven, a bit grim, and there are terrific climaxes. But I hear it as a weaker rehash of the opening movement of the Fourth, with none of the lyrical beauty. The melodic material simply can't sustain the dramatic uses to which it is put. That is why some of the music sounds bombastic. So - I don't like the first movement. The Andante is much better, especially the second half - a strange blend of Bax in Russian mood and, perhaps, Myaskovsky (vandermolen may correct me!) The final Allegro assai combines the ferocity of the first movement with the restrained lyricism of the second. But this movement, too, doesn't completely convince me. It is too much 'gesture symphonism', to coin a phrase (which is a problem I have with the Third, too).In conclusion - the Fourth shows Tubin at his lyrical best, the Sixth at his most violent, and the Fifth sits uncomfortably in the middle...
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