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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #360 on: April 20, 2022, 05:09:58 PM »
This is the only Tubin recording I've ever heard, but I love it.  It is so memorable that I immediately recognizing it after a gap of perhaps 15 years!



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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #361 on: May 12, 2022, 01:23:39 PM »
Definitely my favorite symphonies by him are nos. 2, 4, 6, and 10. The others have their moments, but they can’t compare with the singular level of inspiration of these masterpieces IMO.
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #362 on: May 12, 2022, 02:33:50 PM »
This is the only Tubin recording I've ever heard, but I love it.  It is so memorable that I immediately recognized it after a gap of perhaps 15 years!



Edit: stupid spelling!

That CD was my introduction to Tubin, random record store find a couple of years ago. Still love it.

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« Reply #363 on: May 12, 2022, 03:10:31 PM »
Definitely my favorite symphonies by him are nos. 2, 4, 6, and 10. The others have their moments, but they can’t compare with the singular level of inspiration of these masterpieces IMO.

I'd add the No. 3 in my list too.

My general order would be something like this: 2, 4, 3, 10, 6, 7, 1, 5, 8, 9
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #364 on: May 12, 2022, 09:01:39 PM »
I'd add the No. 3 in my list too.

My general order would be something like this: 2, 4, 3, 10, 6, 7, 1, 5, 8, 9

Let's see - mine would be:

2,4,3,5,1,10,6,8,7,9 - not that unlike yours Cesar.
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« Reply #365 on: May 13, 2022, 03:48:16 AM »
So I'm getting that I should try Tubin's 2nd symphony... I'll try to remember that.

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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #366 on: May 13, 2022, 05:37:10 AM »
Let's see - mine would be:

2,4,3,5,1,10,6,8,7,9 - not that unlike yours Cesar.

Hmm... I don't know 1, but mine would be (with some day-to-day variation depending on my mood):

4, 6, 7, 5, 8, 2, 3, 9, 10

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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #367 on: May 13, 2022, 05:39:04 AM »
Hmm... I don't know 1, but mine would be (with some day-to-day variation depending on my mood):

4, 6, 7, 5, 8, 2, 3, 9, 10

I think highly of the 7th, too. In fact, that whole disc is one of my favorites (coupled with the Piano Concertino and Sinfonietta on Estonian Motifs).
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #368 on: May 13, 2022, 06:32:38 AM »
I wish you would all stop it. Posting about music. I'm minding my own business here having a Shostakovich SQ day before finishing an initial survey of Hindemith SQs, and now I have to listen to all of the Tubin symphonies to decide whether my favourites have changed, before I can carry on exploring Schnittke. It isn't fair and I object.
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #369 on: May 13, 2022, 06:39:29 AM »
I wish you would all stop it. Posting about music. I'm minding my own business here having a Shostakovich SQ day before finishing an initial survey of Hindemith SQs, and now I have to listen to all of the Tubin symphonies to decide whether my favourites have changed, before I can carry on exploring Schnittke. It isn't fair and I object.

Hah! ;D Well, just ignore the comments and proceed with Shostakovich, Schnittke and Hindemith. :) You know the Tubin symphonies, but there is so much music which awaits your discovery!

P.S. You should check out Isang Yun's music and I'm not just saying this because he's my current avatar. ;) I think there's a lyricism in his music that you'll connect with.
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #370 on: May 13, 2022, 07:09:39 AM »
I'd add the No. 3 in my list too.

My general order would be something like this: 2, 4, 3, 10, 6, 7, 1, 5, 8, 9

I need to revisit No. 3 - it’s been a few years since I’ve listened to it. Also, I don’t think I’ve ever listened to No. 9, but it seems to be most people’s least favorite, so I guess I’m not missing out on much. ;)
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #371 on: May 13, 2022, 07:10:38 AM »
So I'm getting that I should try Tubin's 2nd symphony... I'll try to remember that.

Oh, absolutely! One of the most epic, atmospheric, and unique symphonies known to me.
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #372 on: May 13, 2022, 11:22:12 AM »
I need to revisit No. 3 - it’s m been a few years since I’ve listened to it. Also, I don’t think I’ve ever listened to No. 9, but it seems to be most people’s least favorite, so I guess I’m not missing out on much. ;)

The 9th is unusual, a two-movement work in which the two movements have little contrast between them, despite a fugato in (I think) the second movement. It is suffused with with restrained melancholy. I don't dislike it, in fact I feel like I should have placed it higher up in my ranking... well, except for the others. ;)

I believe it is coupled with the 4th in the Jarvi set on BIS.

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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #373 on: May 13, 2022, 01:18:40 PM »
Hah! ;D Well, just ignore the comments and proceed with Shostakovich, Schnittke and Hindemith. :) You know the Tubin symphonies, but there is so much music which awaits your discovery!

P.S. You should check out Isang Yun's music and I'm not just saying this because he's my current avatar. ;) I think there's a lyricism in his music that you'll connect with.

I wish I could! Tubin is calling... ignoring the inner voice would feel like unfinished business...

A few days won't do any harm 🙄😬

Yes, I've been watching your posts with interest. On the list, thank you 😊
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #374 on: May 13, 2022, 04:36:52 PM »
Let's see - mine would be:

2,4,3,5,1,10,6,8,7,9 - not that unlike yours Cesar.

I need to revisit No. 3 - it’s been a few years since I’ve listened to it. Also, I don’t think I’ve ever listened to No. 9, but it seems to be most people’s least favorite, so I guess I’m not missing out on much. ;)

Nos. 8 and 9 are the ones I'm familiar with the least, which doesn't mean they're bad works. Tubin's cycle is one of those where I enjoy or like each symphony.
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #375 on: May 14, 2022, 01:20:33 AM »
Lovely morning with Tubin so far. Busy day ahead with garden stuff, FA Cup Final and out this evening, so a great start.

Heard the Volmer #1 before starting on the Jarvi, which only really confirmed my preference for the latter. I will probably revisit both cycles to enjoy the difference 🙂

Initial order following the first five.... 4, 3, 5, 2, 1. For now.
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #376 on: May 14, 2022, 06:32:10 AM »
Lovely morning with Tubin so far. Busy day ahead with garden stuff, FA Cup Final and out this evening, so a great start.

Heard the Volmer #1 before starting on the Jarvi, which only really confirmed my preference for the latter. I will probably revisit both cycles to enjoy the difference 🙂

Initial order following the first five.... 4, 3, 5, 2, 1. For now.

OT
How could you not watch the Eurovision Song Contest Danny?!!! :o

I've had to carefully negotiate watching the FA Cup Final this afternoon ('CAN'T YOU COME WITH ME TO THE GARDEN CENTRE?') As A Chelsea supporter I'm not spending the afternoon in (yet another) garden centre.
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #377 on: May 15, 2022, 09:00:05 AM »

OT
How could you not watch the Eurovision Song Contest Danny?!!! :o

I've had to carefully negotiate watching the FA Cup Final this afternoon ('CAN'T YOU COME WITH ME TO THE GARDEN CENTRE?') As A Chelsea supporter I'm not spending the afternoon in (yet another) garden centre.
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Thankfully, my wife dislikes Eurovision even more than I do. We didn't realise it was on! As for the final, commiserations on the results 🤨
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Re: Eduard Tubin (1905-82)
« Reply #378 on: Today at 03:36:40 PM »
I am very glad to have spent some time visiting these symphonies again, particularly because I haven't spent much time with the Volmer cycle. I'm not ready to move on to listen to something else just yet, but my current order of preference is probably...

4, 3, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 2, 10, 1

There isn't a symphony here that I either dislike or towards which I feel ambivalent. All excellent, and unsurprisingly Tubin remains one of my favourite composers.
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