Eduard Tubin (1905-82)

Started by vandermolen, March 02, 2008, 01:52:04 AM

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I've been listening to the Tubin/Jarvi box set and really enjoying it.  Very fine works, melodic and vigorous.  So far I've listened to 3, 8, 4, 9.  I think my favorite so far is 4 but they're all very fine.

Mirror Image

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I guess I'm the only one who truly loves the 1st symphony. I've said it before, but I think the first movement alone is a miniature masterpiece. I don't have a number of preference as I don't really feel I know the symphonies well enough to give such a list. I do know the 1st and 4th made a huge impression on me, but I recall great things about the 2nd and 7th as well.

vandermolen

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 20, 2022, 06:16:52 AM
I guess I'm the only one who truly loves the 1st symphony. I've said it before, but I think the first movement alone is a miniature masterpiece. I don't have a number of preference as I don't really feel I know the symphonies well enough to give such a list. I do know the 1st and 4th made a huge impression on me, but I recall great things about the 2nd and 7th as well.
No you're not John  ;D. No.1 is one of my favourites - it reminds me of Kaljo Raid's later 1st Symphony, which I also think very highly of.
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foxandpeng

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Quote from: Mirror Image on May 20, 2022, 06:16:52 AM
I guess I'm the only one who truly loves the 1st symphony. I've said it before, but I think the first movement alone is a miniature masterpiece. I don't have a number of preference as I don't really feel I know the symphonies well enough to give such a list. I do know the 1st and 4th made a huge impression on me, but I recall great things about the 2nd and 7th as well.

Noooo. I also love #1. Tubin is one of only a few symphonists whose works I enjoy in their entirety. #1 may not be toward the top of Tubin for me, but I would put it ahead of lots of other symphonies I enjoy by lots of other composers.

Now listening to the full Kratt on Alba 😁
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Tolstoy

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Kratt contains some of the best music Tubin ever wrote IMO. The ballet is not too long either, something that 'helps' the listener. Good listening!
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Mirror Image

Quote from: vandermolen on May 20, 2022, 06:57:28 AM
No you're not John  ;D. No.1 is one of my favourites - it reminds me of Kaljo Raid's later 1st Symphony, which I also think very highly of.

Quote from: foxandpeng on May 20, 2022, 10:38:27 AM
Noooo. I also love #1. Tubin is one of only a few symphonists whose works I enjoy in their entirety. #1 may not be toward the top of Tubin for me, but I would put it ahead of lots of other symphonies I enjoy by lots of other composers.

Now listening to the full Kratt on Alba 😁

Great to read, fellas. 8)

foxandpeng

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on May 20, 2022, 01:51:56 PM
Kratt contains some of the best music Tubin ever wrote IMO. The ballet is not too long either, something that 'helps' the listener. Good listening!

Thank you, my friend 🙂  Until the Alva release, I had only heard the ballet suite conducted by Jarvi, but the full score is top quality.
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Quote from: foxandpeng on May 20, 2022, 07:11:58 PM
Thank you, my friend 🙂  Until the Alva release, I had only heard the ballet suite conducted by Jarvi, but the full score is top quality.

It certainly is and a real milestone in Estonian music too since I believe it was the first major ballet written by a composer from this country.

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Tubin's operas need to be reissued. A shame they're the only recordings in existence.

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Long time no see a new release devoted to him. Release date: 26 September



Sonata for saxophone and piano (arr. for viola and piano)
Viola Sonata
Piano Quartet
Sarcasm for piano
Ballad for violin and piano
Sonnet for piano
Pastorale for viola and organ (arr. for viola and piano)
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kyjo

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on July 17, 2025, 02:33:32 PMLong time no see a new release devoted to him. Release date: 26 September



Sonata for saxophone and piano (arr. for viola and piano)
Viola Sonata
Piano Quartet
Sarcasm for piano
Ballad for violin and piano
Sonnet for piano
Pastorale for viola and organ (arr. for viola and piano)

Very nice! I agree, it's been a while since we've seen any new releases of Tubin's music. Which isn't a crisis, since the vast majority of his output has been recorded, and usually very well. But with a composer of Tubin's stature, it's always great to have new recordings for comparison and promotion purposes!
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

kyjo

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on November 27, 2022, 07:31:32 PMTubin's operas need to be reissued. A shame they're the only recordings in existence.



How interesting - I had forgotten that Tubin wrote any operas! Despite not being a diehard opera buff, it would be intriguing to hear what a composer like Tubin could achieve with the genre - I have a feeling that the result would be rather "symphonic", which is a good thing in my book! But yeah, it's a shame that Ondine has let those recordings go out of print. The album containing The Parson of Reigi can be found on Spotify, but the one containing Barbara von Tisenhusen cannot.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

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Quote from: kyjo on July 18, 2025, 12:48:22 PMVery nice! I agree, it's been a while since we've seen any new releases of Tubin's music. Which isn't a crisis, since the vast majority of his output has been recorded, and usually very well. But with a composer of Tubin's stature, it's always great to have new recordings for comparison and promotion purposes!

I wish it would include a new rendition of his string quartet which happens to be a folksy, entertaining work. There's only one recording of it on BIS AFAIK.


Quote from: kyjo on July 19, 2025, 07:27:15 AMHow interesting - I had forgotten that Tubin wrote any operas! Despite not being a diehard opera buff, it would be intriguing to hear what a composer like Tubin could achieve with the genre - I have a feeling that the result would be rather "symphonic", which is a good thing in my book! But yeah, it's a shame that Ondine has let those recordings go out of print. The album containing The Parson of Reigi can be found on Spotify, but the one containing Barbara von Tisenhusen cannot.

Thanks for the alert, Kyle. If there's hope for one of his operas to be available for streaming, the same should apply to the other one as well, hopefully in the near future.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.