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Quote from: Spotted Horses on October 05, 2021, 05:41:07 AMBrings to mind the Simpson episode: cable TV goes out in c and (to the accompaniment of Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony) residents of Springfield are taking walks in the forest, picking flowers, writing poetry, etc. Life is blissful, until the TV comes back on and everyone is grimly glued to their TV sets again...
Quote from: T. D. on October 08, 2021, 11:05:07 AMThis is really weird. But it does have to do with music.Paywall likely, but you may be able to get around it by googling.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-10-08/the-handpan-s-creators-want-to-keep-their-invention-pure-it-may-not-surviveThey Invented the Must-Have Instrument for the Burning Man Set. Now They Want to Kill It OffTwo reclusive Swiss artists created the handpan, which has been played by everyone from Björk to Dave Matthews. Copycats proliferated, and now they think capitalism has ruined it—and they're fighting back.By Ellen HuetOctober 8, 2021, 10:00 AM EDT
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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 09, 2021, 07:04:13 AMhttps://www.cnn.com/travel/article/yellowstone-bear-incident-woman-sentenced/index.htmlA 25-year old woman from Illinois was sentenced to jail for 4 days and received a substantial fine for her selfish stupidity. She's lucky that she's alive and unhurt from her foolish actions.PD
Quote from: Todd on October 09, 2021, 08:07:36 AMI always wonder how and why specific people are singled out for prosecution. Hordes of people violate the rules every day of the week in Yellowstone. Bison, in particular, entice people to act dumb. When I visited, one doofus was trampled by a male Bison, but lived. A week or two before, another doofus was killed the same way. I personally saw dozens of people getting way too close to animals while on foot. Of course, sometimes it is hard to stay far enough away from peripatetic critters. (The attached was taken from the "safety" of my car.) Wolves and coyotes both wander freely by the geysers and springs, as well.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 09, 2021, 08:55:00 AMAnyway, the rules are clearly posted. And I'm sure, like you said, I imagine that sometimes it would be hard to avoid getting too close to them. She certainly did not seem to care. I would also imagine that rangers are tired of dealing with idiots being too self-absorbed to care for their own good, the animals well-being, and the rangers themselves who would then have to try and rescue them..or notify their next of kin!I've also recently read a story about a family getting out of their car, their dog jumped out of the car and went into hot water there (about 200 degrees) and the daughter went in to try and save it with the father having to drag her out. Believe that she received serious burns...here's one telling of the story:"A 20-year-old woman from Washington is in a coma after jumping into a 200 degree Fahrenheit hot spring at Yellowstone National Park to save her dog. Laiha Slayton jumped into a boiling spring in Yellowstone National Park to save her dog that had run away. According to officials, the woman's father pulled her out of the spring. She suffered significant thermal burns from "her shoulders to feet". Officials also reported the dog died from its injuries."A very very sad story, but it could have been prevented (Leash? Left the puppy/dog at home with relatives or with friends or in boarding?). PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 09, 2021, 08:55:00 AMFrom what I read either in that article or elsewhere, everyone else was carefully backing away and went into their cars.
Quote from: Todd on October 09, 2021, 10:15:15 AMYeah, I get that. People do that every day. I personally witnessed adults with their children approaching a herd of bison in Yellowstone. I'm interested in the criteria used to prosecute. The criteria used by putative news organizations in selecting which stories to exploit are more transparent.
Quote from: Todd on October 09, 2021, 08:07:36 AMBison, in particular, entice people to act dumb
Quote from: DavidW on October 09, 2021, 12:08:47 PMI see the same thing here. It was probably well recorded on video, while more egregious cases in the past were not.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 09, 2021, 01:24:14 PMPerhaps only allowing people in with park escorts (as in a tour in the park's vehicles?)
Quote from: Todd on October 09, 2021, 03:42:52 PMHard to say. People have been recording everything there on phones and cameras for decades. Um, Yellowstone is roughly the size of Cyprus, and the notion of only allowing people in with escorts doesn't even rise to the level of nonstarter.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 11, 2021, 12:42:55 PMI suspect that the amount of publicity that has been generated by this might help prevent things again in the future, but then again maybe not.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 11, 2021, 12:42:55 PMIt's hard to have it both ways: freedom vs. complete safety
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 11, 2021, 12:42:55 PMIf you or anyone else has any suggestions, I'm sure that the park would be delighted to hear them.
Quote from: MusicTurner on July 01, 2021, 03:27:10 AMApparently it was just announced that the case has been abolished, since the leadership of the race doesn't want a court case to be too exaggerated or too promoted by the media etc, and because they hope that a lesson has already been learned.I think this is an interesting move, hopefully with a healthy element of 'calm down', and appealing to common sense. Perhaps they're thinking very strategically and don't want future races disturbed by various 'sensational' court cases, political stunts etc. But I guess that riders' individual court cases are still an option somewhat.
Quote from: MusicTurner on October 15, 2021, 02:08:14 AMTour de France 2021:In the news today: the woman got a suspended sentence for 4 months. I'd suppose there's some fee involved too in the rule. The case was continued to the courts by the association of the professional cyclists CPA, when the Tour de France leadership abolished the idea. Seems quite fair and not overblown to me.https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/opi-omi-tour-de-france-spectator-who-caused-crash-on-opening-stage-to-appear-in-courthttps://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/fan-who-caused-tour-de-france-crash-goes-trial-2021-10-14/
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