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drogulus

    I'm expecting great things from the 2023 recession.

    Know why there are so many recession predictions? It's because bad news is news, and nobody suffers from being wrong. It's smart to predict 3 out of every one recessions. You're a realist, not like those others who don't know stuff. It's important to know, though, that just because so may brilliant marketeers predict a recession doesn't mean it won't happen.
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Todd

San Francisco politicians to vote on policy endorsing lethal force for robots

I prefer a German headline: Roboter: Polizei in San Francisco beantragt Lizenz zum Töten

The prototype has been selected.  Word is OCP expects ~$300 million in revenue annually for the first three years alone.



The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

The dollar is our currency, but it's your problem - US Treasury Secretary John Connally to European Finance Ministers, 1971

LKB

Quote from: Todd on November 25, 2022, 04:58:03 AMSan Francisco politicians to vote on policy endorsing lethal force for robots

I prefer a German headline: Roboter: Polizei in San Francisco beantragt Lizenz zum Töten

The prototype has been selected.  Word is OCP expects ~$300 million in revenue annually for the first three years alone.





Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

Todd

Who Were the Worst Climate Polluters in the US in 2021?

The worst of the worst included a coal-fired power plant in Alabama, a coal mine in Pennsylvania and a nylon plant in Florida, recent EPA data shows.


A fun article.  Note the mention of self-reported data.  I am 100% certain that all reporting entities reported everything with pristine accuracy and did not, in any way, misrepresent the data. 
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

The dollar is our currency, but it's your problem - US Treasury Secretary John Connally to European Finance Ministers, 1971

Pohjolas Daughter

This boggles the mind.  It's a long read but very interesting and illuminating I think.  It's about what is happening in Arizona to one area's water supply, but the implications, rules in effect and what is being allowed to happen is mind-boggling.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/us/arizona-water-foreign-owned-farms-climate/index.html

PD


k a rl h e nn i ng

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 28, 2022, 05:30:37 AMThis boggles the mind.  It's a long read but very interesting and illuminating I think.  It's about what is happening in Arizona to one area's water supply, but the implications, rules in effect and what is being allowed to happen is mind-boggling.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/us/arizona-water-foreign-owned-farms-climate/index.html

PD


Staggering.
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Spotted Horses

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 28, 2022, 05:30:37 AMThis boggles the mind.  It's a long read but very interesting and illuminating I think.  It's about what is happening in Arizona to one area's water supply, but the implications, rules in effect and what is being allowed to happen is mind-boggling.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/us/arizona-water-foreign-owned-farms-climate/index.html

PD



The article describes a real and extremely serious problem, the depletion of aquifers by agricultural users who pump water out much faster than it is naturally replenished. However, I would take issue with the xenophobic slant to the article, blaming it on foreign owned farms, and particularly farms owned by companies based in Arab states. U.S. growers are equally egregious in depletion of ground water, especially now that Colorado River flow is becoming more an more inadequate to meet needs for agriculture and urban populations.

k a rl h e nn i ng

Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 28, 2022, 07:49:52 AMThe article describes a real and extremely serious problem, the depletion of aquifers by agricultural users who pump water out much faster than it is naturally replenished. However, I would take issue with the xenophobic slant to the article, blaming it on foreign owned farms, and particularly farms owned by companies based in Arab states. U.S. growers are equally egregious in depletion of ground water, especially now that Colorado River flow is becoming more an more inadequate to meet needs for agriculture and urban populations.
Good point.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 28, 2022, 07:49:52 AMThe article describes a real and extremely serious problem, the depletion of aquifers by agricultural users who pump water out much faster than it is naturally replenished. However, I would take issue with the xenophobic slant to the article, blaming it on foreign owned farms, and particularly farms owned by companies based in Arab states. U.S. growers are equally egregious in depletion of ground water, especially now that Colorado River flow is becoming more an more inadequate to meet needs for agriculture and urban populations.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 28, 2022, 08:10:42 AMGood point.
That's a fair point.  I wonder whether they titled the article thusly to particularly get people's attention?  I do also think that the writer brought up positives including employment and donations to the local high school, etc.  Some of the things that particularly struck me were the lack of rules regarding the amount of usage of water, measuring how much someone is actually using and that they've tried to get new rules approved by the state which would help with issues like these, but that they are not getting passed.  Perhaps all of the big commercial farmers are pressuring their elected officials to not pass needed measures?  Horrifying in any event to read that they were looking down into the aquifer and the water was actually moving!  And ground sinking and mud-covered roads?  :o

We have to change the way we grow things (let alone what we grow to begin with) and how we manage our natural resources--including water...and now.

PD

Spotted Horses

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 28, 2022, 09:50:43 AM...
We have to change the way we grow things (let alone what we grow to begin with) and how we manage our natural resources--including water...and now.

That is correct. It is difficult because the water rights were negotiated ~100 years ago and are hard to change because a lot or people are dependent on them. It may be hard to find a legal basis for saying someone can't drill a hole on their own land and take water out, but underground water is lot localized and it a community resource. Oil and minerals deep underground don't belong to you because they are under your land (that's why oil companies buy leases from the federal government) and water will have to be treated the same way.

The positive side is that there is a huge amount of waste in the way water is used in traditional agriculture (open channels, flooding fields to irrigate crops). California has set up a system of buying and selling water rights among farmers and it has led to much more efficient use of water (maybe not efficient enough).

JBS

Actually, you do own oil/gas/minerals if it's found under land you own. Oil/gas leases from the US government come about because oil/gas was found under public lands. But if Exxon discovers oil under your back yard, it has to buy the land or pay you for the right to pump.
In real life, this latter point can get complicated because if there's oil under your back yard it's almost certain to be under the backyards of many of your neighbors; the same pool of oil will be under multiple plots of land, and pumping it out via your back yard means pumping out the oil under their back yards: it's all from the same source.

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Spotted Horses

Quote from: JBS on November 28, 2022, 06:12:28 PMActually, you do own oil/gas/minerals if it's found under land you own. Oil/gas leases from the US government come about because oil/gas was found under public lands. But if Exxon discovers oil under your back yard, it has to buy the land or pay you for the right to pump.
In real life, this latter point can get complicated because if there's oil under your back yard it's almost certain to be under the backyards of many of your neighbors; the same pool of oil will be under multiple plots of land, and pumping it out via your back yard means pumping out the oil under their back yards: it's all from the same source.

I was incorrect in saying that all mineral rights default to the Federal government. I was thinking of Canada where all mineral rights, including oil and gas, are owned by the Provence, even when the surface rights are owned by a private company or individual. In the U.S. private land owners will often also own mineral rights, although there are large tracts of land in which the Bureau of Land Management owns mineral rights although the surface rights are held privately. This is a sore point in the Western states. You can also discover that the entity that sold you a tract of land had already sold the mineral rights to someone else.

Todd

San Francisco will allow police to deploy robots that kill

San Francisco has long been a progressive city.  And this here is progress!
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

The dollar is our currency, but it's your problem - US Treasury Secretary John Connally to European Finance Ministers, 1971

Todd

Oregon Rogue River blue cheese is on the menu at White House state dinner tonight

Beaver state turophiles are rejoicing: Biden and Macron shall dine on Southern Oregon blue cheese.  It is the second-best cheese from the tiny Rouge Creamery - the best is Brutal Blue, which is only rarely available, and then only in the Central Point retail shop.  From a diplomatic perspective, it just makes sense to serve Rogue River Blue from the Rouge Creamery.  The Rogue River's English name is derived from the description used by French fur trappers in centuries past.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

The dollar is our currency, but it's your problem - US Treasury Secretary John Connally to European Finance Ministers, 1971

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

The dollar is our currency, but it's your problem - US Treasury Secretary John Connally to European Finance Ministers, 1971

LKB

The former Scumbag-in-Chief want's the Constitution " suspended " in order to facilitate his reinstatement:

https://www.axios.com/2022/12/03/trump-election-fraud-constitution
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: LKB on December 03, 2022, 06:36:41 PMThe former Scumbag-in-Chief want's the Constitution " suspended " in order to facilitate his reinstatement:

https://www.axios.com/2022/12/03/trump-election-fraud-constitution
God help us!

PD

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

The dollar is our currency, but it's your problem - US Treasury Secretary John Connally to European Finance Ministers, 1971