Hitler's Artwork

Started by маразм1, March 07, 2008, 01:07:18 PM

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MishaK

It's mostly amateurish, really. You can see why he didn't succeed in that line of work.

Brian

If only he had been a slightly better artist. Then instead of starting the Holocaust, he could have worked for a postcard company.

маразм1

at least, this is much better than Saul's "paintings"

PSmith08

Aside from the execrable taste involved with owning a Hitler painting, what does one do with it? They lack any redeeming artistic merit, which is to say that they are so mediocre that their intrinsic value cannot ameliorate the fact that Adolf Hitler painted them. These aren't Kandinsky or Pollock paintings. They're treacly crap from the hand of the worst man produced by the 20th century.

Bad art is one thing. Bad art by a genocidal tyrant just will not do.


head-case

Quote from: маразм1 on March 07, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
http://www.snyderstreasures.net/pages/hartworks.htm

Beautiful stuff!  I had no idea...

As if this is new to anyone.  I thought everyone knew Hitler was a second rate artist in his youth.  He was also an undistinguished soldier, and even studied to be a priest, if I remember correctly. 

Hollywood

If only Hitler wasn't rejected as a student by those art professors into the School of Art here in Vienna. Who knows how history would have played out.  ???
"There are far worse things awaiting man than death."

A Hollywood born SoCal gal living in Beethoven's Heiligenstadt (Vienna, Austria).

david johnson

i've seen some hitler art in person.  my wife is an artist and chuckled at it.  the buildings were fine, but i could see how the lighting/shadow was really off.
next to it in the display was a copy of a handel concerto with the dictator's signature on it.

the jerk doesn't rest even in death - across the aisle was some of gen. patton's stuff!

dj

The new erato

Fascinating to think about how the world might have been if the little Schiklgruber had had some little talent.

J.Z. Herrenberg

I think Hitler's art is on a par with Saddam Hussain's novels.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Shrunk

There was an extraordinary documentary released several years ago, The Architecture of Doom, which argues that Nazism was in large part motivated by aesthetic/artistic values.

greg

Quote from: маразм1 on March 07, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
http://www.snyderstreasures.net/pages/hartworks.htm

Beautiful stuff!  I had no idea...

i like the ones in the cities.


Quote from: Hollywood on March 07, 2008, 11:03:02 PM
If only Hitler wasn't rejected as a student by those art professors into the School of Art here in Vienna. Who knows how history would have played out.  ???
i always wondered that, too..... and weren't the professors there Jewish?

Josquin des Prez

Oh hello guys, i'm here to demonstrate my eXtreme disdain for this thread and anything even remotely related to this evil man. Ok, you can proceed now.

Norbeone

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on March 08, 2008, 06:40:10 AM
Oh hello guys, i'm here to demonstrate my eXtreme disdain for this thread and anything even remotely related to this evil man. Ok, you can proceed now.

Why, what did he do?

Michel

Quote from: PSmith08 on March 07, 2008, 06:46:44 PM
Bad art by a genocidal tyrant just will not do.

Yeah, I don't much care for Wagner either. :)

head-case

Quote from: Michel on March 08, 2008, 07:04:06 AM
Yeah, I don't much care for Wagner either. :)

I guess if Wagner's operas were rejected by Professors in Vienna we'd have found out how good a genocidal dictator he would have been.

M forever

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Quote from: erato on March 08, 2008, 01:17:10 AM
Fascinating to think about how the world might have been if the little Schiklgruber had had some little talent.

Not much different. Hitler wasn't the cause of all that, he was just riding a strong wave like many other people. He didn't really shape history that much, he just added his touches to it here and there. He was a good poster boy and rallying point for the extreme right wing, but if it hadn't been specifically him, it would have been someone else. It's not like the world was a happy place until he came along. Like other people of his kind, he just commented on and opportunistically adapted and extremely simplified and exaggerated his views to the given historical situation to benefit from it. He was made by the situation, not the other way around.

Quote from: head-case on March 07, 2008, 09:23:11 PM
As if this is new to anyone.  I thought everyone knew Hitler was a second rate artist in his youth.  He was also an undistinguished soldier, and even studied to be a priest, if I remember correctly. 

No, that priest thing, that was Stalin. It is very interesting to note that all these dictators did have very high artistic and/or "spiritual" goals they failed to achieve, just like I pointed out that one of our resident fanatics here, our good friend Saul also has this inclination towards cheap postcard kitsch art and pseudo-romantic copycat music, and that all fits in very nicely with his simplistic and extremist views. This is what this kind of person looks like. They aren't like the evil guys in movies.

The new erato

Quote from: M forever on March 08, 2008, 08:48:12 AM
He was a good poster boy and rallying point for the extreme right wing, but if it hadn't been specifically him, it would have been someone else. It's not like the world was a happy place until he came along.
I think Hitler as a person had a decisive influence. Of course there were others of the same ilk, but I don't think it is a given that they would have managed the same. And the outcome; we might have become communists all of us, with an isolated and much weaker USA. Or whatever.....

knight66

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Stalin also wrote poetry, especially in his earlier days. He was really quite a complex character, not by any means a cardboard cut-out baddie. His evil was much to do with his insecurities. Nor was he an ignorant peasant-wise, purblind man as has been taught for a long time in Western Europe.

Mike
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