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Re: Beethoven Symphonies Cycle: Which is your #1 pick?
« Reply #260 on: May 25, 2020, 02:56:21 AM »
I have not worked my way through the whole set (to be honest, I never listen to any Beethoven set that way), but I want to put in a word for Kletzki with the Czech Philharmonic.  I love the sound of this orchestra in Beethoven.



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« Reply #261 on: May 25, 2020, 03:17:59 AM »
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Jochum/Concertgebouw was my first complete cycle. It came as a set of LPs in a bulky box with an embossed gold medallion on the front. I still hold it in great affection though some of the performances now seem rather slow, especially No 6, but No 8 is my all-time favourite for that work.

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« Reply #262 on: May 26, 2020, 09:24:29 AM »
My preferences remain more or less the same: Krivine, Norrington, Leibowitz. I think of the more "traditional" cycles I rate Blomstedt/Leipzig the highest—a bit faster than his Dresden one and in much better sound.

Changes from previous list in red. I guess I don't listen to the Beethoven symphonies that much.

Bernstein NY C B-
Blomstedt Dresden C+
Blomstedt Leipzig A-
Brüggen Glossa C+
Brüggen Philips B-
Chailly A
Dohnányi A-
Fischer (Adam) B
Gardiner B+
Herreweghe A
Hogwood A-
Järvi B
Karajan 1963 C
Krivine A+
Leibowitz A+
Norrington LCP A-
Norrington Stuttgart A+
This might send me running back to Norrington II, which I remember liking a lot but haven't heard in ages. I'm quite surprised about Adam Fischer - his cycle is so full of ideas and idiosyncrasies, but that makes it personal...me, I thought a lot of it was super weird. But time to revisit that too, maybe. After finishing this Monteux/Cluytens duel thing.

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Re: Beethoven Symphonies Cycle: Which is your #1 pick?
« Reply #263 on: May 26, 2020, 04:15:12 PM »
My cycles

Off the top of my head

*Cluytens BPO
*HvK '63 
*Walter Mono
*Walter Stereo
*Toscanini NBCSO 49 -53
*Furtwangler - various
*Reiner
*Leibowitz
*Monteux Vienna/LSO
*Mengelberg

Not sure which I would rate as top they all have at least one symphony that is not performed as well as it should be. Favourite single symphonies

1 Toscanini NBCSO
2 Immerseel (HIP) Reiner Pittsburgh (Mono)
3 Leibowitz (Stereo) Toscanini '49 (mono)
4 Cluytens BPO
5 HvK '63
6 Walter Columbia SO/Cluytens/Reiner CSO (Hard to choose)
7 Monteux
8 The Liszt transcription by Katsaris (Yes, cheating I know) Maybe Toscanini
9 Fricsay BPO

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Re: Beethoven Symphonies Cycle: Which is your #1 pick?
« Reply #264 on: May 26, 2020, 06:23:06 PM »
Anyone have an opinion on this?


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Re: Beethoven Symphonies Cycle: Which is your #1 pick?
« Reply #265 on: May 27, 2020, 12:54:55 AM »
Anyone have an opinion on this?



No opinion but it is a puzzle to me.

My introduction to Symphonies 5 & 6 (ca. 1968) was Steinberg and the Pittsburgh SO on the EMI bargain price Music for Pleasure label - both in mono sound and on LPs now long gone. The EMI (now Warner) Icon box has Symphonies 3, 5, 6, 7 & 8, recorded between 1955 and 1957. I assume Nos 5 & 6 are the same I used to have on LP.

A few years ago I downloaded Nos 1, 5, 6, 8 & 9 (Mahler version) from Rediscovery.US - all with the PSO but in stereo (at least that is what foobar2000 says); unfortunately Rediscovery provides minimum information.

The Amazon link for the DG set is pretty useless, not least because it says the set has only 2 CDs.  Amazon UK is marginally better in that it gives a track listing for all 9 symphonies, apparently squashed on to 2 CDs; it describes No 9 as 'original version'. There is no useful recording/publication info.

How many times did Steinberg record the Beethoven symphonies?


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Re: Beethoven Symphonies Cycle: Which is your #1 pick?
« Reply #266 on: May 27, 2020, 04:52:48 AM »
Went digging...
The EMI recordings were originally done for Capitol, in the 1950s.
This new set is a cycle done for Command Classics in the 1960s.
Source
Steinberg's Wikipedia bio
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Steinberg
Presto's listing for the new set
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8768411--beethoven-the-symphonies

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Re: Beethoven Symphonies Cycle: Which is your #1 pick?
« Reply #267 on: May 27, 2020, 05:33:44 AM »
Went digging...
The EMI recordings were originally done for Capitol, in the 1950s.
This new set is a cycle done for Command Classics in the 1960s.
Source
Steinberg's Wikipedia bio
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Steinberg
Presto's listing for the new set
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8768411--beethoven-the-symphonies

Many thanks for that I will check out the DG set on Spotify and possibly order from Presto

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Re: Beethoven Symphonies Cycle: Which is your #1 pick?
« Reply #268 on: June 04, 2020, 11:41:47 PM »
I'm curious: Have all my posts on this thread been deleted? And if so, why? Did anyone notice anything going missing? I can't believe I dreamt about posting about Steinberg's Beethoven.

I see. There seems to have been a universal deletion of a few day's posts worth.

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« Reply #269 on: June 04, 2020, 11:45:58 PM »
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« Reply #270 on: June 04, 2020, 11:48:29 PM »
There were two server crashes within the last week or so and lots of messages were lost.

So I've read up on, since. (Sticking to my motto: Talk first, research later.  :( )
It just happens so that all my posting, after a month of silence, had been taking place in that time. So I found it curious that everything had been wiped out.  ;D