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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2009, 03:31:12 PM »
Can someone post the movement timings for the Fournier recording?

FOURNIER..........QUEYRAS..........BRUNS
14:51...............15:24...............14:21
11:28...............12:01...............11:26
12:27...............12:42...............12:32
[38:43]............[40:05]............[38:16]

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2009, 06:49:17 PM »
Can someone post the movement timings for the Fournier recording?

This is from my copy on LP; don't know if there are timing variations in the CD transfer:

1. Allegro   14'37"
2. Adagio ma non troppo   11'21"
3. Finale: Allegro moderato   12'15"

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2009, 11:41:07 PM »
I don't know lots of recordings but I loved the Rostropovich/Boult version on an old HMV Concert Classics LP.  Here is is on CD:

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2009, 05:39:00 AM »
OK, this has nothing to do with Dvorak's cello concerto, BUT...
I answered J's question about timings for the Fournier because when I saw it last night, I did NOT see Brian's response, even though that response was posted 3 hours and 10 minutes or so earlier than mine. I know that on some forums, postings are filtered and don't appear for a while, even hours or almost a day later (rmcr used to be like that years ago), but this one has always been pretty immediate about things showing up. I also realize I may have been a little too sleepy last night and simply didn't notice Brian's post (hey, I'm getting old...it could happen). So has anyone else noticed a lag time in posting? Although it doesn't seem logical, could it possibly be something about browsers? I was on Safari on my Mac at home last night, and am on Internet Explorer now on my work PC. Nah. Surely not.

Call me befuddled...

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2009, 06:39:42 AM »
It could be a browser cache issue. Some browsers are set up by default not to reload pages that have been viewed recently and just to redisplay how they appeared when last viewed.
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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2009, 06:46:47 AM »
I also realize I may have been a little too sleepy last night and simply didn't notice Brian's post (hey, I'm getting old...it could happen).

Perhaps you just didn't notice that the discussion had moved on to page 3? :)

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So has anyone else noticed a lag time in posting?

I haven't.

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2009, 01:46:12 PM »
The Harrell/Levine recording on RCA is worth a listen if you can track a copy down somewhere.

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2009, 02:38:19 PM »
What do esteemed members of the forum think of the Wispelwey/Ivan Fischer CD on Channel Classics?

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2009, 11:57:47 AM »
What do esteemed members of the forum think of the Wispelwey/Ivan Fischer CD on Channel Classics?

All I heard were samples, and this was about a year ago, but my recollection is Wispelwey really took some interpretive liberties that I wasn't keen on.

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2012, 10:27:19 AM »
Dvorak composed 2 concertos for cello and orchestra... 2nd is the more well-known. But I like more the 1st. Milos Sadlo and Czech Philharmonic with Vaclav Neumann conducting preferred here.

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2012, 04:34:20 AM »
Zara Nelsova with Susskind is at least worth the asking price:

http://www.amazon.com/Dvorák-Concertos-Complete-Zara-Nelsova/dp/B00005UW2E

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2012, 04:41:45 AM »
Chicago Symphony Orchestra is performing Dvorak's Cello Concerto tonight with Yo-Yo Ma.

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« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2012, 06:09:16 AM »
Chicago Symphony Orchestra is performing Dvorak's Cello Concerto tonight with Yo-Yo Ma.
Yo-Yo will surely bring bums into the seats!
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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2012, 07:02:42 AM »
For me, the Rostropovich/Karajan is hard to beat. However, since I now primarily buy SACDs, I tried the Pieter Wispelwey/Ivan Fischer, which has garnered considerable praise, but it just seemed too tepid to me. I just received the Mischa Maisky/Zubin Mehta version on DG--much better! It's more intense and more closely mic'd, which results in greater orchestral detail. Oddly enough, it has not received especially good reviews. To each his own, I suppose.

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2012, 07:14:42 AM »
For me, the Rostropovich/Karajan is hard to beat. However, since I now primarily buy SACDs, I tried the Pieter Wispelwey/Ivan Fischer, which has garnered considerable praise, but it just seemed too tepid to me. I just received the Mischa Maisky/Zubin Mehta version on DG--much better! It's more intense and more closely mic'd, which results in greater orchestral detail. Oddly enough, it has not received especially good reviews. To each his own, I suppose.

If Queyras on harmonia mundi is in SACD, you might want to try that. It's my favorite recording from after the year 2000, although of course I can't guarantee he or anybody can top Rostropovich.

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2012, 12:36:01 PM »
If Queyras on harmonia mundi is in SACD, you might want to try that. It's my favorite recording from after the year 2000, although of course I can't guarantee he or anybody can top Rostropovich.

Indeed it is...for $270!!!  :o
http://www.amazon.com/Dvorák-Cello-Concerto-Hybrid-SACD/dp/B000B7AGWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336253532&sr=8-2 (only part of the link turns into a hyperlink for some reason.)

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2012, 01:18:00 PM »
 My favorite version is Rostropovich- Talich. Despite the mediocre sound, there are something special in Talich' interpretation, full of Czech idiomatic spirit, especially in the Adagio movement, where Karajan or Giulini approached like they did with Bruckner symphonies. The Szell-Fournier is quite good, but I think Fournier is so cool and do not really on with this music.

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2012, 01:44:53 PM »
Indeed it is...for $270!!!  :o
http://www.amazon.com/Dvorák-Cello-Concerto-Hybrid-SACD/dp/B000B7AGWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336253532&sr=8-2 (only part of the link turns into a hyperlink for some reason.)

Must be "á" in Dvorák because that's where it stops being a hyperlink. The link works when put between url tags:

http://www.amazon.com/Dvorák-Cello-Concerto-Hybrid-SACD/dp/B000B7AGWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336253532&sr=8-2
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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #58 on: May 07, 2012, 07:19:07 AM »
Good, but the Hindemith is even better.


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What would be standard timings,... as per J?

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Re: Dvorak's Cello Concerto
« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2012, 01:53:14 PM »
Laserlight's finest hour:

1) 14:39
2) 10:52
3) 11:49

What would be standard timings,... as per J?

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