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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18480 on: March 30, 2020, 11:26:03 PM »
“The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again,” Trump said during an appearance on Fox & Friends.

Wow - this is supposed to be a democracy?  :o

This Republican voter surpression thing used to be hush hush.
With a blabbermouth like Trump (just imagine all the things he would say if he drank!) it's coming out in the open, as campaign gifts to the Dems.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18481 on: March 31, 2020, 05:36:29 AM »
t's coming out in the open, as campaign gifts to the Dems.

The Dems don't know how to use these gifts.
They bungle up everything.
Even the impeachment efforts just increased Trump's approval rating by 5 % points.
Amazing incompetence!
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18482 on: March 31, 2020, 05:50:21 AM »
That does not matter. 
If the virus is under control by early fall and the economy starting to come back, Trump will win.
If the economy is not starting to come back or if the virus is not fully under control (the latter would automatically keep the economy depressed) , Trump will lose.
It does not matter who his opponent might be. If it was George Washington running with the Virgin Mary as VP, it would be the same.

So only the virus matters?  Doesn't that mean the US democratic process needs vaccination against Corona virus? Too bad the general election comes sooner than the vaccine it seems...

I understand your logic, even agree to it, but unlike you, I see shades of gray. How bad is the virus situation? How bad is the economy? There is a line which flips the election to Biden (maybe Andrew Cuomo) or Trump. This line is moving all the time. That's why these polls matter.
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18483 on: March 31, 2020, 10:03:49 AM »

     Trump pushes $2 trillion infrastructure package in next coronavirus bill, saying it must be ‘VERY BIG & BOLD’

     Trump has found it useful to recruit an army of econo-bots from among the right wing shrinksters. Now in pursuit of a higher cause, his reelection, he needs something that will work, which ordinarily is occupied territory. There will be a big argument over the shape of the plan, and there should be. The pandemic will limit how quickly we rebuild.

     As per usual there will be an effort to not learn the same lesson we don't learn every time a crash occurs. That way we can cling to bad ideas about where spending comes from, and waste valuable time thinking up neat answers.

     
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18484 on: March 31, 2020, 05:04:07 PM »
He's been promising Big Infrastructure since he was campaigning in 2016, correct?

This is just an attempt to adapt that to the current situation.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18485 on: March 31, 2020, 07:32:43 PM »


This is just an attempt to adapt that to the current situation.

     Of course it is. I don't mind, I only care about getting it done.
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18486 on: March 31, 2020, 08:03:32 PM »
He's been promising Big Infrastructure since he was campaigning in 2016, correct?

This is just an attempt to adapt that to the current situation.

No. It's just the latest application of a lifelong strategy: using someone else's money to clean up the latest shit stain he's left. (Atonement for and distraction from the death toll his incompetence abetted.) You know he's in deep shit if he's actually threatening to do something useful.

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« Reply #18487 on: March 31, 2020, 08:18:51 PM »
McConnell claims impeachment ‘diverted the attention’ of Trump administration from coronavirus response

"Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Tuesday that the impeachment of President Trump distracted the administration’s attention away from the coronavirus crisis, defending the president amid criticism of the delayed U.S. response to the pandemic.

In an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, McConnell blamed the Democratic-led impeachment effort, even though Trump was acquitted by the Senate on Feb. 5 — more than three weeks before the first coronavirus death in the United States."

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as somebody responded elsewhere:

CDC issues warning: Jan 8.

Trump acquitted: Feb 5.

Trump campaign rallies:
Jan 9
Jan 14
Jan 28
Jan 30
Feb 10
Feb 19
Feb 20
Feb 21
Feb 28

Trump golfs:
Jan 18
Jan 19
Feb 1
Feb 15
Mar 7
Mar 8

Trump admits virus might be a problem:
Mar 13.


somebody else commented that knowing the fix was in right from the outset that shouldn't have been any distraction at all - even if you accept the premise that a president couldn't be expected to deal with two problems at once
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18488 on: April 01, 2020, 03:30:00 PM »
McConnell claims impeachment ‘diverted the attention’ of Trump administration from coronavirus response

somebody else commented that knowing the fix was in right from the outset that shouldn't have been any distraction at all - even if you accept the premise that a president couldn't be expected to deal with two problems at once

Also known as "the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time".

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #18489 on: April 01, 2020, 05:14:47 PM »
OH NO: Trump Doesn't Understand "Per Capita".

Also, Trump claimed the population of Seoul is 38 million when it's "only" a little under 10 million (metropolitan area 25-26 million). The ELEVATION of Seoul is 38 m (meters) above sea level, so maybe Trump thought 38 m means 38 million people and perhaps elevation means the same as population.  ;D

This guy is on path of having four more years. Amazing!  ???
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Thanks to Trump, the coronavirus is very much not under control in the USA

On February 24, President Trump tweeted, ‘The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA.’ It wasn’t.

“I want every American to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead. We’re going to go through a very tough two weeks.”

With these words, on Tuesday afternoon, President Trump sounded a new and welcomed tone on the coronavirus.

But make no mistake, hard days lie ahead because of the president’s botched, selfish, and incompetent response to the coronavirus crisis. A change in tone can’t change that catastrophic reality.

Trump’s calls for vigilance are a bit like declaring it’s time to close the barn doors after the horses have escaped — and the barn is on fire and it’s threatening to burn the entire farm down.

Tens of thousands of Americans (and possibly more) are likely to die because of the president.

Since the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, Trump’s public statements and actions have followed a similar trajectory: They have been dishonest, misleading, fantastical, and dangerous. It would blow over soon, he said early on. It would go away when the weather got warmer. “The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” he tweeted. It wasn’t.

While thankfully there’s no more talk of re-opening the economy on Easter, the damage has been done. America has become the epicenter of a global pandemic.

Consider that the United States and South Korea reported their first coronavirus cases on the same day — Jan. 20. More than two months later, South Korea has just under 10,000 confirmed cases and 169 deaths. By comparison, the United States has more than 216,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and more than 5,000 people have died. Taking into account population differences (the US has 327 million people and South Korea has around 51 million people), the number of cases is more than three times greater than South Korea — and the death toll is nearly four times as great.

These horrific numbers could have been avoided with genuine presidential leadership.

After the initial case was diagnosed in January, South Korea immediately began aggressive testing and quarantines. Private companies were encouraged to develop diagnostic tests. Within a month drive-through screening centers had been set up and thousands were being tested daily.

In the United States, Trump refused to focus on the issue. Two days after that initial positive case he declared "We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming from China. It’s going to be just fine.” When Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar was first able to talk to Trump about the coronavirus on Jan. 18, Trump wanted to talk about a recently announced vaping ban.

Into February, Trump was still stubbornly resisting bureaucratic efforts to deal with the emerging crisis. The weeks lost in ramping up testing were a lost — and unforgivable —opportunity to save lives.

Trump’s obstinance is bad enough — but the delay was also undoubtedly influenced by Trump’s diktat that testing should not be a priority. The more testing that was done, the more positive results there would be and that was an outcome the president did not want.

Keeping the numbers low in order to avoid spooking Wall Street and negatively affecting Trump’s reelection became the administration’s focus.

Those presidential-created obstacles did more than prevent essential equipment from getting to communities in need — it seeded a deadly message of doubt, particularly to Trump supporters.

Researchers at the University of Washington look at five critical social distancing policies and the varying implementation between states. They found that states “with Republican governors and Republican electorates” delayed each of these initiatives "by an average of 2.70 days.”

While more than 30 states have issued stay-at-home orders, a host of states have either not made such state-wide declarations or done partial orders. Nearly all are helmed by Republican governors. In Arizona, GOP Governor, Doug Ducey prevented cities and counties from putting in effect stay-at-home orders. He didn’t issue his own statewide decree until this week. Last week, the Republican governor of Mississippi Tate Reeves overruled city and county social distancing measures. Under pressure, he announced a stay-at-home order on Wednesday that will go into effect Friday.

Trump is not directly responsible for these delays, but did Trump’s suggestion that the disease was no worse than the flu give cover to Republican governors who preferred to delay social distancing efforts? Did it encourage them to drag their feet? It’s hard to argue otherwise. With the combination of misinformation spread on Fox News (particularly during a crucial period in late February and early March when the outlet’s anchors were playing down the threat from the coronavirus), will more Americans in red states test positive for the coronavirus and die needlessly? Almost certainly.

Trump has also publicly suggested that Democratic governors who don’t show him proper veneration will have to get in the back of the line for medical supplies. And there is emerging evidence that Republican states are having their requests for ventilators and protective equipment met while blue states are getting the short end of the stick. How many people, simply because they live in a blue state, are going to die because of this president’s petty cruelty?

It’s not an easy thing to accuse a president of being personally responsible for the deaths of Americans, but with Trump and the coronavirus, it’s simply a fact.
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