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« Reply #9542 on: December 04, 2019, 01:05:52 AM »



also nearly finished Jack Reacher No.15:

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« Reply #9543 on: December 04, 2019, 05:53:19 AM »


For francophiles and lovers of the 19th century.

I'm reading the dutch translation.

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« Reply #9544 on: December 04, 2019, 09:48:00 AM »
Aldous Huxley: Crome Yellow





Huxley is an author whom I read avidly as a young man but have not read anything of his in many years. I picked Crome Yellow randomly off the shelf. I instantly remembered liking Huxley’s characters immensely. They are so natural and alive. His writing style is so easy and fluid; everything moved along effortlessly.
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« Reply #9545 on: December 06, 2019, 10:43:57 AM »
Wondering if I shall ever finish Joyce's Ulysses. It's an endless series of alternating between outrageously funny and witty parts and then mind-screwy enigmas impossible to figure out. There have been several months when I haven't read it at all.

Yet I must finish it. This is often regarded as one of the greatest novels ever written and to be fair, it shows often enough. Appropriately enough, I have recently thought a lot of about reading Fleming's From Russia with Love again: I am sure decoders trying to figure out Joyce would have loved to get their hands on Spektor/Lektor. I wonder if Joyce ever decrypted messages in war himself? I know Fleming did.
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« Reply #9546 on: December 06, 2019, 12:00:27 PM »
Wondering if I shall ever finish Joyce's Ulysses. It's an endless series of alternating between outrageously funny and witty parts and then mind-screwy enigmas impossible to figure out. There have been several months when I haven't read it at all.

Yet I must finish it. This is often regarded as one of the greatest novels ever written and to be fair, it shows often enough. Appropriately enough, I have recently thought a lot of about reading Fleming's From Russia with Love again: I am sure decoders trying to figure out Joyce would have loved to get their hands on Spektor/Lektor. I wonder if Joyce ever decrypted messages in war himself? I know Fleming did.

A man after my own heart, can't decide between James Joyce & James Bond...  :laugh:

FWIW, I've tried Ulysses twice and never got more than halfway through it (wonderful stuff, but I can't take it in such large doses.  I bought Finnegan's Wake in college and have honestly never even cracked it open.)  I've read all of Fleming several times (though not for many years now).  I actually thought about re-reading some Bond recently after watching one of the movies -- I might pull On Her Majesty's Secret Service off the shelf this weekend if I have some time....
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

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« Reply #9547 on: December 06, 2019, 12:03:50 PM »
Wondering if I shall ever finish Joyce's Ulysses. It's an endless series of alternating between outrageously funny and witty parts and then mind-screwy enigmas impossible to figure out. There have been several months when I haven't read it at all.

Yet I must finish it. This is often regarded as one of the greatest novels ever written and to be fair, it shows often enough. Appropriately enough, I have recently thought a lot of about reading Fleming's From Russia with Love again: I am sure decoders trying to figure out Joyce would have loved to get their hands on Spektor/Lektor. I wonder if Joyce ever decrypted messages in war himself? I know Fleming did.

Finish it.

I did, dammit. And take your cod liver oil too!

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« Reply #9548 on: December 06, 2019, 12:15:16 PM »
Wondering if I shall ever finish Joyce's Ulysses. It's an endless series of alternating between outrageously funny and witty parts and then mind-screwy enigmas impossible to figure out. There have been several months when I haven't read it at all.

Yet I must finish it. This is often regarded as one of the greatest novels ever written

Written for whom? For literary critics and historians, or for the general audience?  ;D




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« Reply #9549 on: December 06, 2019, 12:28:10 PM »
I doubt he expected the first wave of literary critics to like it, and I believe most were hostile, except the rare few as perceptive as Edmund Wilson. I believe it was other authors who did most of the initial championing of the work.

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« Reply #9550 on: December 06, 2019, 12:43:04 PM »
I doubt he expected the first wave of literary critics to like it

This, while true, is no argument against the idea that he wrote "Ulysses" rather for literary critics than for the general audience.

If you ask me, a humble member of the general audience, "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" is much more humane and reader-friendly  --- ie, much more interesting --- than "Ulysses".

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« Reply #9551 on: December 06, 2019, 01:08:43 PM »
I think he wrote it for himself, the only way he knew how to write it. And I think you might have some skewed ideas about both snobby literary critics and the supposedly simple tastes of the "general audience" - of which I'd like to consider myself a member.

Some mountains are worth the climb. (also I'd take Ulysses over Portrait any day)

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« Reply #9552 on: December 06, 2019, 01:24:29 PM »
I think he wrote it for himself, the only way he knew how to write it.


I think you're spot on.

And I also think that great novelists truly worth their name know how to write for others. Three names OTTOMH: Dickens, Hugo, Dostoievsky.


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And I think you might have some skewed ideas about both snobby literary critics and the supposedly simple tastes of the "general audience" - of which I'd like to consider myself a member.

It's not a question of snobbery or simplism. It's a question of why, and for whom, one writes novels. See above.

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Some mountains are worth the climb. (also I'd take Ulysses over Portrait any day)

No mountain is worth the climb in abstracto. Do you really claim that anyone who dislikes Ulysses, or is not able to finish it, is a dimwit?
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« Reply #9553 on: December 06, 2019, 01:50:09 PM »
Well, from what I've heard, Ulysses is the easiest book to read in the world when compared to Finnegan's Wake. It seems Joyce's books got steadily more and more incomprehensible the more he developed as a writer.

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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #9554 on: December 06, 2019, 01:54:35 PM »


 Do you really claim that anyone who dislikes Ulysses, or is not able to finish it, is a dimwit?

No, I think you're being unnecessarily defensive because *you* didn't like it. Which I, for one, don't require you to, and don't feel it points toward any larger truth.

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« Reply #9555 on: December 06, 2019, 02:02:46 PM »
This, while true, is no argument against the idea that he wrote "Ulysses" rather for literary critics than for the general audience.

If you ask me, a humble member of the general audience, "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" is much more humane and reader-friendly  --- ie, much more interesting --- than "Ulysses".

I'll take Dubliners over both. I never much liked Portrait. Ulysses at least is often very funny. I could imagine curiosity maybe leading me to re read Ulysses. Not Portrait.

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« Reply #9556 on: December 06, 2019, 02:50:42 PM »
I'll take Dubliners over both. I never much liked Portrait. Ulysses at least is often very funny. Not Portrait.

It shows you're not a Christian. The sermon in Portrait makes for a fascinating reading --- and I have to say it makes some good points.
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« Reply #9557 on: December 06, 2019, 05:15:23 PM »
It shows you're not a Christian. The sermon in Portrait makes for a fascinating reading --- and I have to say it makes some good points.
There's a sermon in Portrait??

 ;)

I remember a priest droning on and on to a bunch of boys. I assumed it was foreplay.

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« Reply #9558 on: December 06, 2019, 05:49:50 PM »
It shows you're not a Christian. The sermon in Portrait makes for a fascinating reading --- and I have to say it makes some good points.

It was Joyce's way of showing everything he thought wrong with Irish Catholicism.

I think Portrait is a great book, better than Dubliners, probably better than Ulysses, which I have tried to read but never finished.

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