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Florestan

@AnotherSpin  @DavidW @steve ridgway

It's all a thing of the past, anyway. What with the internet, the e-books and the AI, reading books and thinking them over will become as obsolete as listening to vinyls: the province of a minority of fanatics.  ;D
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Mandryka

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Quote from: Florestan on April 13, 2024, 03:41:47 AMJoseph Conrad was published in Romanian translation in the 1960s: Lord Jim, Heart of Darkness, Nostromo. He's one of my favorite writers, a truly unique style and a sumptuous use of English, despite him being Polish.


I watched the Alastair Reid film of Nostromo last night -- very good. Tragic figures -- Nostromo and Martin Decoud. @vers la flamme -- this is one for you!


I'm turning into a Leavisite, reading James and Conrad!
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Florestan

There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Florestan

There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Mandryka

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Quote from: Florestan on April 13, 2024, 10:48:50 AMWhich only proves that Twain was much more palatable to the Soviet censorship than Conrad;D



Why is that? I mean Nostromo is so abused by the colonial capitalists that they even deprive him of a name - he's not a person for them, he's just a tool. I see it as a cautionary tale - workers of the world, unite - or they'll milk you till you end up a wreck like Giovanni Battista.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Florestan

Quote from: Mandryka on April 17, 2024, 04:46:51 AMWhy is that?

Because as a lesser Polish aristocrat he was a Russophobe and an anti-socialist.  ;D

Quote from: Joseph ConradAs to discussing Russia it's the most chimeric of enterprises since it is there for anyone to look at. La Russie, c'est le néant ... Anybody can see it

Quote from: Joseph ConradI must be excused from joining in the ecstasies about the Russian Revolution... Russia was an untrustworthy ally before – and it remains so still. The immediate result is to eliminate it as an active factor from the war. It counted for little – and now it counts for nothing.

Quote from: Joseph ConradThe great thing is to keep the Russian infection, its decomposing power, from the social organism of the rest of the world.

Quote from: Joseph Conradwhere's the man to stop the rush of social-democratic ideas?... Socialism must inevitably end in Caesarism... the whole herd of idiotic humanity are moving in that direction at the bidding of unscrupulous rascals and a few sincere, but dangerous lunatics. These things must be. It is fatality.

https://culture.pl/en/article/joseph-conrads-forgotten-relationship-with-political-activism





There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Mandryka

Ah yes - I remember The Secret Agent now. That was the first book by him I ever read - though I'd seem Apaocalypse Now of course.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Florestan

Quote from: Mandryka on April 17, 2024, 05:08:06 AMAh yes - I remember The Secret Agent now.

Under Western Eyes as well.

I must say, I'm quite sympathetic to his views.  :D
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Florestan on April 17, 2024, 12:20:07 AM@AnotherSpin  @DavidW @steve ridgway

It's all a thing of the past, anyway. What with the internet, the e-books and the AI, reading books and thinking them over will become as obsolete as listening to vinyls: the province of a minority of fanatics.  ;D

I like e-books. As the meaning of home is blurred for me right now, I can't carry a lot of paper books with me any time, however I can feed as many as I may want to my computer. Not to mention subscription services like Scribd/Everand. I think I read a single paper book this year only.

DavidW

Quote from: Florestan on April 17, 2024, 12:20:07 AM@AnotherSpin  @DavidW @steve ridgway

It's all a thing of the past, anyway. What with the internet, the e-books and the AI, reading books and thinking them over will become as obsolete as listening to vinyls: the province of a minority of fanatics.  ;D

Well people said that about tv, but people still read books!

DavidW

Quote from: AnotherSpin on April 17, 2024, 05:24:38 AMI like e-books. As the meaning of home is blurred for me right now, I can't carry a lot of paper books with me any time, however I can feed as many as I may want to my computer. Not to mention subscription services like Scribd/Everand. I think I read a single paper book this year only.

Everytime I rebel against ebooks my presbyopia ends up pulling me back to the large fonts on my Kindle.  And no matter what when I travel I'm packing a Kindle and not several books.

vers la flamme

Quote from: Mandryka on April 17, 2024, 02:47:28 AMI watched the Alastair Reid film of Nostromo last night -- very good. Tragic figures -- Nostromo and Martin Decoud. @vers la flamme -- this is one for you!


I'm turning into a Leavisite, reading James and Conrad!

Conrad—like James, another writer I've been meaning to get around to for ages. I have Heart of Darkness, which I've tried before but never finished. Maybe that short book will prove as effective an introduction as Turn of the Screw had for James. Anyway I shall check this out, thanks.

I finished Turn of the Screw. I was blown away by the author's use of ambiguity. Truly unlike anything else I've ever read. Can't wait to read more James... I have Portrait on the way to me, though I understand it's a completely different kind of book.

Ganondorf

I read Portrait some months ago. A magnificent book though a trifle unbalanced. I enjoyed the latter half more.

Speaking of James, I started to read The Wings of The Dove recently while visiting a library. Blown away by the very first chapter already.

Spotted Horses

Quote from: vers la flamme on April 17, 2024, 06:54:18 AMConrad—like James, another writer I've been meaning to get around to for ages. I have Heart of Darkness, which I've tried before but never finished. Maybe that short book will prove as effective an introduction as Turn of the Screw had for James. Anyway I shall check this out, thanks.

I finished Turn of the Screw. I was blown away by the author's use of ambiguity. Truly unlike anything else I've ever read. Can't wait to read more James... I have Portrait on the way to me, though I understand it's a completely different kind of book.

I'm an admirer or Conrad but Heart of Darkness never really resonated by me. Lord Jim, Typhoon, Victory are titles that stand out in my memory from my period of reading a lot of Conrad.
There are simply two kinds of music, good music and the other kind. - Duke Ellington

Florestan

Quote from: AnotherSpin on April 17, 2024, 05:24:38 AMI like e-books. As the meaning of home is blurred for me right now, I can't carry a lot of paper books with me any time, however I can feed as many as I may want to my computer. Not to mention subscription services like Scribd/Everand. I think I read a single paper book this year only.

Quote from: DavidW on April 17, 2024, 06:20:53 AMEverytime I rebel against ebooks my presbyopia ends up pulling me back to the large fonts on my Kindle.  And no matter what when I travel I'm packing a Kindle and not several books.

Mea culpa, guys! I meant audio books, not e-books.  :D
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

AnotherSpin


AnotherSpin

Quote from: Florestan on April 18, 2024, 06:11:19 AMMea culpa, guys! I meant audio books, not e-books.  :D

I listened not long ago a bit, in fragments, to Venedikt Erofeev's book Moscow-Petushki in a reading by the author. It was interesting. Although, listening to this book, which I first read about 30 years ago, was no longer exciting. That is, audio books may have an additional appeal, as in this case, but I never developed a habit for them. And the sound quality is often poor, far from audiophile :)

LKB

Quote from: Florestan on April 17, 2024, 05:06:19 AMBecause as a lesser Polish aristocrat he was a Russophobe and an anti-socialist.  ;D
 

https://culture.pl/en/article/joseph-conrads-forgotten-relationship-with-political-activism

Thanks Florestan, I've never paid Conrad much attention before but I like what you've quoted... a lot. 8)
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

JBS

Quote from: AnotherSpin on April 18, 2024, 08:00:39 AMI listened not long ago a bit, in fragments, to Venedikt Erofeev's book Moscow-Petushki in a reading by the author. It was interesting. Although, listening to this book, which I first read about 30 years ago, was no longer exciting. That is, audio books may have an additional appeal, as in this case, but I never developed a habit for them. And the sound quality is often poor, far from audiophile :)

There's also the question of whether the person reading is able to convey the book onto tape. Erofeeov is totally unknown to me, but I'm reminded of how sometimes composers are not the best conductors of their own works: despite the apparent authority of the performance, perhaps another person might do better.

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Mandryka

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Quote from: Ganondorf on April 18, 2024, 04:03:49 AMI read Portrait some months ago. A magnificent book though a trifle unbalanced. I enjoyed the latter half more.

Speaking of James, I started to read The Wings of The Dove recently while visiting a library. Blown away by the very first chapter already.

The first chapter with Lionel Croy is very good I agree. For me, I just report this in case you read it, I first detected that there was something very very very special going on in  the book in Volume I, Book V, Chapter II.   

Any thoughts about what Lionel's terrible deed could have been? 
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen