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Offline amw

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Re: The Most "MOVING" Pieces for you Personally.
« Reply #120 on: July 16, 2021, 12:40:41 AM »
I feel like I've answered very similar thread topics in the past.

At the moment I would name the slow movement of Mozart's Piano Concerto No.22 & Brahms's Variations on an Original Theme Op.21 no.1.
Trying to think if there's anything I would add to this. Schumann's Kerner-Lieder for sure. Eastman's Gay Guerrilla, if you're into that sort of thing, and Berio's Laborintus II, if you're not. And plenty of individual moments that are only moving (affecting, electrifying, etc) in the context of listening to an entire, often very long piece: the big payoff in the last movement of Mahler 3, the last two pages of the slow movement of Bruckner 8, the 1-2-3 combination of Aus Liebe, Können Tränen meiner Wangen and Komm, süßes Kreuz in BWV 244, and the similar but different 1-2-3 combination of Zerfließe, mein Herze, Ruht wohl and Ach Herr, laß dein lieb Engelein at the very end of BWV 245. Others are very performance-dependent; the very last piece of Schumann's Davidsbündlertänze can be extremely moving or it can just be a fun little aside after the main body of the piece is over, depending on the pianist, the instrument and the interpretation.

Mozart likely deserves a category of his own; in addition to the movement mentioned, the slow movements of the Piano Concertos No.17, 21, 23 & 27 cannot avoid deep feeling in any performance, and it's very difficult to achieve an unfeeling performance of e.g. the Quintets D515 or D516, the Rondo D511, etc. That's without even getting into the operas. Our perception of Mozart as a light composer who doesn't deal with heavy emotions is largely because we have forgotten how to listen to his music (or perform it, in many cases).
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Re: The Most "MOVING" Pieces for you Personally.
« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2021, 05:34:13 PM »
Another go:
Bloch: Sacred Service
Bloch: Symphony in C sharp minor (Conclusion)
Bax: Christmas Eve
Sainton: Nadir
Miaskovsky: Symphony 27
Diamond: Symphony 3 (slow movement)
Braga-Santos: Symphony 4
Moeran: Cello Concerto (conclusion)
Bruckner: 9th Symphony
Shostakovich: Piano Quintet
Sibelius: Tapiola
Bax: Piano Quintet
Alwyn: Violin Concerto
Howells: Hymnus Paradisi
Finzi: Dies Natalis/In Terra Pax
Tubin: Symphony 4
Vaughan Williams: A London Symphony (conclusion 1913 and 1920 version, not 1936 version)
Stanley Bate: Symphony 3 and Symphony 4
Rootham: Symphony No.2 (conclusion)
Arnell: Symphony No.5 and No.3
Pettersson: Symphony No.6 'The long struggle towards the sunrise' at the end - I find that terribly moving - a kind of hard-won acceptance after an hour of turbulence and suffering.
+ Violin Concerto No.2 (ending)

Interesting list, Jeffrey. The only work I don't know is the Rootham IIRC.
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Re: The Most "MOVING" Pieces for you Personally.
« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2021, 09:22:12 AM »
Interesting list, Jeffrey. The only work I don't know is the Rootham IIRC.
Worth hunting down Cesar (Lyrita CD). He completed it just before he died and his student, the loyal Patrick Hadley was there to help him (transcribing what Rootham was telling him). I find the closing sequence unbearably moving:

PS I had to look up what 'IIRC' means  ::)
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2021, 08:10:45 PM »
Worth hunting down Cesar (Lyrita CD). He completed it just before he died and his student, the loyal Patrick Hadley was there to help him (transcribing what Rootham was telling him). I find the closing sequence unbearably moving:

PS I had to look up what 'IIRC' means  ::)


It must be a quite poignant work, Jeffrey. I'll make sure to give it a listen in this week.

Haha sorry for that word (if I remember correctly).
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« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2021, 09:25:22 PM »
It must be a quite poignant work, Jeffrey. I'll make sure to give it a listen in this week.

Haha sorry for that word (if I remember correctly).

I'd be interested to hear what you think of it Cesar. It's very different from his First Symphony, which I also think very highly of.
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« Reply #125 on: July 18, 2021, 06:15:06 AM »
A couple of ones which always get to me:

*Finzi's Cello Concerto
Elgar's Cello Concerto (particularly if played by du Pré)...and, oh!  Brain kicked in a bit more now....some others....

Vaughan Williams A London Symphony, Symphony No. 5, A Lark Ascending, Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis, Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus....
a lot of Mozart hits at the old heart..particularly some of his piano concertos and some of the arias from certain operas
Puccini - arias and duets from La Boheme
R. Strauss' - arias and music from Der Rosenkavalier
various oboe concertos (there's just something about the oboe which often touches me in a kind of melancholic way)
Tchaikovsky's Serenade for Strings
Purcell's Dido's Lament
Chopin's Piano Concerto No. 2 (Cortot and Barbirolli a particular favorite)
Dvorak's Cello Concerto

Well that's for starters!   :)

*I'll have to check out Finzi's Dies Natalis!

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Re: The Most "MOVING" Pieces for you Personally.
« Reply #126 on: July 18, 2021, 08:51:53 AM »
In no particular order:

Beethoven: Op. 132 Slow movement "Heiliger Dankgesang"
Mahler: "Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen"
Mahler: Symphony #3 Adagio, Symphony #9 Adagio (Finale), Symphony #10 Finale (Coda especially), Symphony #6 Andante
Vaughan Williams: Symphony #5 3rd movement (Lento?)
Schoenberg: String Quartet #2 (Ich fuhle Luft von anderem Planeten)
Pettersson: Symphony #7 (long hymnlike passage about 2/3 of the way through)

I'm sure others will come to me...

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« Reply #127 on: July 18, 2021, 09:01:55 AM »
In no particular order:

Beethoven: Op. 132 Slow movement "Heiliger Dankgesang"
Mahler: "Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen"
Mahler: Symphony #3 Adagio, Symphony #9 Adagio (Finale), Symphony #10 Finale (Coda especially), Symphony #6 Andante
Vaughan Williams: Symphony #5 3rd movement (Lento?)
Schoenberg: String Quartet #2 (Ich fuhle Luft von anderem Planeten)
Pettersson: Symphony #7 (long hymnlike passage about 2/3 of the way through)

I'm sure others will come to me...
Must admit, I need to check out Mahler better.  Will look to see what all I might have of his (hidden in those sets) and explore further.  Schoenberg I have a little of (will dig again).  Pettersson I've heard of but don't know at all.  Would you say that his seventh is a good place to dive in?

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« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2021, 10:23:58 AM »
Must admit, I need to check out Mahler better.  Will look to see what all I might have of his (hidden in those sets) and explore further.  Schoenberg I have a little of (will dig again).  Pettersson I've heard of but don't know at all.  Would you say that his seventh is a good place to dive in?

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Yes! It is certainly the best known and most popular of his symphonies, and the one that really put him on the map, so to speak. I am not otherwise a huge Pettersson fan - much of his music seems static to me, and too long-winded to boot. But I love the 3rd and the 7th, and found the 6th engaging the last time I listened to it (Alun Francis reading I believe). He definitely is worth delving into if you can stomach hour-long angst-ridden confessionals composed in an astringent but very tonal idiom.

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« Reply #129 on: July 18, 2021, 11:00:02 AM »
Yes! It is certainly the best known and most popular of his symphonies, and the one that really put him on the map, so to speak. I am not otherwise a huge Pettersson fan - much of his music seems static to me, and too long-winded to boot. But I love the 3rd and the 7th, and found the 6th engaging the last time I listened to it (Alun Francis reading I believe). He definitely is worth delving into if you can stomach hour-long angst-ridden confessionals composed in an astringent but very tonal idiom.

This sounds like a pharmaceutical warning notice about possible side effects  :D.

Personally I don’t find Pettersson’s music to be static at all. There is a dark but powerful undercurrent that runs beneath the surface, like lava flowing under the cracks of a thick black crust.


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« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2021, 12:21:06 AM »
Will check out Pettersson's seventh then...thank you both!  :)

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Re: The Most "MOVING" Pieces for you Personally.
« Reply #131 on: July 19, 2021, 04:50:41 AM »
This sounds like a pharmaceutical warning notice about possible side effects  :D.

Personally I don’t find Pettersson’s music to be static at all. There is a dark but powerful undercurrent that runs beneath the surface, like lava flowing under the cracks of a thick black crust.



I love your imagery!
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Re: The Most "MOVING" Pieces for you Personally.
« Reply #132 on: July 19, 2021, 07:24:18 AM »
This sounds like a pharmaceutical warning notice about possible side effects  :D.

Personally I don’t find Pettersson’s music to be static at all. There is a dark but powerful undercurrent that runs beneath the surface, like lava flowing under the cracks of a thick black crust.



I like the imagery there and find it apt - but remember that lava often flows very very slowly... and that's the impression I have of much of Pettersson's output.

De gustibus and all... but I can wholeheartedly recommend the 7th Symphony.

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« Reply #133 on: July 20, 2021, 04:28:44 PM »
Right now, the most moving piece of music for me is "Erbarme dich" from Bach's St. Matthew Passion, with Julia Hamari and Otto Büchner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPAiH9XhTHc

Historically, these are a couple that will move me.

Beethoven Symphony no. 3, 2nd movement, funeral march.  Ansermet, SRO. Climax of the fuge, actually.

Mozart, Symphony no. 41, 2nd movement.  Leibowitz, Colin Davis . . .

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« Reply #134 on: July 21, 2021, 04:45:10 AM »
Lepo Sumera Symphony No. 2
Kevin Puts Symphony No. 2
Mahler Symphony No. 2*, 3, 9, 10
Shostakovich Symphony No. 13
Haug Symphony No. 1
Finzi Fall of the Leaf
Tippett A Child of Our Time
RVW: Symphony No. 9 (really all the symphonies), Pilgrims Progress
Prokofiev Romeo and Juliet (especially ending)
Handel: The Messiah (Worthy Is the Lamb and Amen are especially moving culmination)
Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6 and Swan Lake (especially life where you're fully involved with the three hour spectacle)
Gorecki Symphony No. 3
Elgar Cello Concerto, Violin Concerto, Dream of Gerontius
Part Berliner messe

* This will forever hold a very special place in my life because it was the first professional orchestral performance I attended and I was so moved by the experience.  I wish I could email the conductor who is still alive to tell him that it changed my life but I don't know how to find him.