Mahler Mania, Rebooted

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North Star

Quote from: karlhenning on May 21, 2014, 04:39:20 AM
Listening to Lenny's live recording of the Fifth with the Wieners, I feel I could be in danger of becoming a Maniac . . . .
Splendid!
I think I'll give Chailly's recording a spin later today. :)
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snyprrr

Am I ready for Mahler?

I tried him back in my DSCH days, and, of course, liked DSCH better. I had the old (Walter?) Sony 6th, the classic EMI 5th with that British conductor,... but, mm, I never really got into Mahler. Right now I'd be more interested in any particular recording that gives me something special... I guess I'd go back and try 6 again?

I loved how No.1 was used in Caan's film 'The Gambler', but it's slower there than any recording I've found.

So, if there was only one Mahler recording for snyprrr, what would you recommend?

ibanezmonster

Quote from: snyprrr on May 24, 2014, 07:20:12 AM
So, if there was only one Mahler recording for snyprrr, what would you recommend?
All of them. I'm sure you have the time.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: snyprrr on May 24, 2014, 07:20:12 AMI had the old (Walter?) Sony 6th the classic EMI 5th with that British conductor

Not Walter's 6th...no such thing. He didn't like it, didn't record it. I don't think he ever conducted it.

Quote from: snyprrr on May 24, 2014, 07:20:12 AM
So, if there was only one Mahler recording for snyprrr, what would you re
commend?

Klemperer's 7th. Try the middle movements (Nachtmusik I, Scherzo, Nacthmusiik II). Some seriously weird stuff going on there, Mahler's and Klemperer's  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Pat B

Bernstein's Sony 4th is the one that opened the floodgates for me. But, other 4ths like Szell or Kletzki probably would have done the same.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: snyprrr on May 24, 2014, 07:20:12 AM
Am I ready for Mahler?

I tried him back in my DSCH days, and, of course, liked DSCH better. I had the old (Walter?) Sony 6th, the classic EMI 5th with that British conductor,... but, mm, I never really got into Mahler. Right now I'd be more interested in any particular recording that gives me something special... I guess I'd go back and try 6 again?

I loved how No.1 was used in Caan's film 'The Gambler', but it's slower there than any recording I've found.

So, if there was only one Mahler recording for snyprrr, what would you recommend?
I always thought of you as a Bruckner sort of guy. Is that strange? I might try #2 with Abbado and the Lucerne forces. You can get a sense of it here:
http://www.youtube.com/v/KSGRSU0S3_0
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Brahmsian

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Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 24, 2014, 09:14:49 AM
I always thought of you as a Bruckner sort of guy. Is that strange? I might try #2 with Abbado and the Lucerne forces. You can get a sense of it here:


Just curious, was this the one Papy Oli found dull?  :D

Papy Oli

Quote from: ChamberNut on May 24, 2014, 09:35:35 AM
Just curious, was this the one Papy Oly found dull?  :D

Dull would still be too complimentory a word....in my opinion of course   ;)




Olivier

Papy Oli

Quote from: snyprrr on May 24, 2014, 07:20:12 AM
So, if there was only one Mahler recording for snyprrr, what would you recommend?

I'll bite for 3 :

Mahler 4th with Reiner / Della Casa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVDwcj4lZR0

Mahler 5th - Tennstedt Live 1988
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H57VKzHVQpI


bonus : Mahler 1st - last mvt with Maazel / VPO :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1eGoWoNMMU

8)
Olivier

Brahmsian

Quote from: Papy Oli on May 24, 2014, 09:47:23 AM
Dull would still be too complimentory a word....in my opinion of course   ;)

:D  Oh, and I've amended my spelling mistake on Oli, Olivier.  :-[

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 24, 2014, 09:14:49 AMI might try #2 with Abbado and the Lucerne forces. You can get a sense of it here:

Of course you'd recommend the one I absolutely hate  8)  We're still batting a 1000, Neal  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

snyprrr

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 24, 2014, 08:04:01 AM
Not Walter's 6th...no such thing. He didn't like it, didn't record it. I don't think he ever conducted it.

Klemperer's 7th. Try the middle movements (Nachtmusik I, Scherzo, Nacthmusiik II). Some seriously weird stuff going on there, Mahler's and Klemperer's  8)

Sarge

1) Whatever the Sony cheapie of No.6 was (back in the day) SuperDuperSaver?

2) Listened a bit (is every movement 20mins.???:laugh:)- sounds like primal Schnittke to me- a bit more polite, but definitely I get the feeling Mahler's trying to be 'ironic'- playing 'normal' music and 'doing things' to it. 6-7 seem to be the axis of darkness? And 10? Of course, I can't tell what is Mahler and what is Klemperer.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Papy Oli on May 24, 2014, 09:47:23 AM
Dull would still be too complimentory a word....in my opinion of course   ;)
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 24, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
Of course you'd recommend the one I absolutely hate  8)  We're still batting a 1000, Neal  ;D

Sarge
Dull!?!? Hate!?!?! I think we live in parallel universes, because I find it among the few that captures the true essence of the work. Which ones do you like?

Oh, and there is something to be said for consistency! :)
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 25, 2014, 10:48:22 AM
Dull!?!? Hate!?!?! I think we live in parallel universes, because I find it among the few that captures the true essence of the work. Which ones do you like?

I have 33 versions. Top 5 would be Kaplan/Vienna, Maazel/Vienna, Boulez/Vienna (I think I see a pattern here  ;D ) Bernstein/NY (DG), Slatkin/St.Louis.


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Papy Oli

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 25, 2014, 10:48:22 AM
Dull!?!? Hate!?!?! I think we live in parallel universes, because I find it among the few that captures the true essence of the work. Which ones do you like?

My top tier (out of 41) would include those :

Kaplan/Vienna
Boulez/Vienna (Live version from GMG)
Bernstein/LSO (DVD - Live in Ely Cathedral)
Ozawa/Boston
Mehta/Vienna
Klemperer / BRSO
Olivier

Papy Oli

Olivier

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Papy Oli on May 25, 2014, 11:55:37 AM
hmmm, I should revisit that one.

A dark horse, for sure. Easily overlooked.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

mc ukrneal

Maybe I will get the Kaplan since you both really like that one. I could also go for the Boulez, but I would be tempting fate there I think...

I have the Bernstein DG, which is very dynamic, but his opening tempo always seems to be a bit too slow and loses momentum. But I like it nonetheless.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

kishnevi

Another thumbs up for the Kaplan. 
My favorite is probably Chailly on DVD (Gewandhaus) and then Lenny DG.

Jay F

Favorite M2s:

Bernstein DG
Bernstein NYPO Sony
Solti LSO
Klemperer Bayerischen Rundfunk
Abbado Chicago

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