Mahler Mania, Rebooted

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Atriod

Quote from: DavidW on December 07, 2023, 07:20:11 AMFor me I didn't really get into Mahler's 8th until I heard Horenstein live at the Albert Hall on BBC legends.  That is what turned it from like to love.



My favorite performance as well! What do you make of the Antoni Wit recording that Hurwitz said was the best?

I have this Bertini/TMSO in my to hear queue, I like Bertini's EMI cycle recording of it. From what I've heard from ~30 Japanese orchestral Mahler recordings (or romantic music in general) they really love his music, often playing like it's the last performance they're going to give. Inbal's TMSO now my favorite Mahler cycle by a huge margin for a single conductor/orchestra cycle. Many traits of Bernstein's best performances in them.


DavidW

Quote from: Atriod on December 07, 2023, 09:04:08 AMMy favorite performance as well! What do you make of the Antoni Wit recording that Hurwitz said was the best?

I have this Bertini/TMSO in my to hear queue, I like Bertini's EMI cycle recording of it. From what I've heard from ~30 Japanese orchestral Mahler recordings (or romantic music in general) they really love his music, often playing like it's the last performance they're going to give. Inbal's TMSO now my favorite Mahler cycle by a huge margin for a single conductor/orchestra cycle. Many traits of Bernstein's best performances in them.



I haven't heard Wit.  I have heard the EMI Bertini but not the Tokyo.  So many great M8s to listen to!

vers la flamme

Wit/Warsaw is a really good one! I'm a fan of his conducting, and that might be his best recording of anything, that I've heard.

Nagano looks great too. I haven't heard too much of his work but I've liked what I've heard.

Horenstein, I think, was one of Tony Duggan's top picks for that symphony. He seems to rate just about all of Horenstein's Mahler recordings highly. I haven't heard anything from that conductor.

Damn, y'all are making me want to listen to Mahler's 8th again. I kind of burned myself out on it about a month or two back after listening to it every day for a while  ;D

vers la flamme

Quote from: Atriod on December 07, 2023, 06:35:45 AMMahler 8 is my holy grail in finding the best performances because of seeing a concert with Rattle (a top five music memory) which moved the symphony from like to love.

As for best sounding Mahler 8 I don't doubt BIS will take the award, this one also sounds really good. Hurwitz and I seem to differ in what we look for in a performance.



This also looks good...

Atriod

Quote from: vers la flamme on December 07, 2023, 12:54:06 PMThis also looks good...

I am trying to get it elevated to cult like status because of the Mormons ;)

relm1

I like Dudamel with the combined orchestras of Simon Bolivar and LA Phil.  The first recording, not the second one which was just dull.



Simon Rattle's National Youth Orchestra is very good too.


ghmath

Rattle's reading is exquisite IMHO. Specially the last ten minutes.

vers la flamme

New reissue of Klemperer's EMI Mahler recordings on the way. Worth a buy if anyone here does not already have them.

Atriod

Quote from: vers la flamme on December 18, 2023, 07:40:20 AMNew reissue of Klemperer's EMI Mahler recordings on the way. Worth a buy if anyone here does not already have them.

I've heard these transfers from the Klemperer mega box. They sound very good, definitely better than the Abbey Road ART CDs. Klemperer conducting Symphony 7 is still one I have a hard time getting through.

DavidW

Quote from: Atriod on December 22, 2023, 07:44:30 AMKlemperer conducting Symphony 7 is still one I have a hard time getting through.

Yeah but the second is great!

Atriod

Quote from: DavidW on December 22, 2023, 09:46:07 AMYeah but the second is great!

Agree, I think they're all at a very high level of musicianship. That seventh for me lacks enough contrast between the movements, also slow tempi alone doesn't make it reach into the cosmos like Inbal/Czech Philharmonic who takes more conventional tempi.

I have the two Klemperer Archiphon boxes and sadly there is not much Mahler on them, with the second being the most often recorded. Live Klemperer was not uncommonly quite special, with my favorite second from him being the live concert that EMI recorded.

DavidW

btw I saw on another forum that the Vanska cycle will be boxed and released this year.  Everything I heard I liked so far (have not tried the 8th yet), except the 10th because... I love it, not just like it.  Probably the finest 10th on record.  Currently both the M8 and M9 are half off on eclassical fyi.

Also while I'm at it I saw that the Nott cycle is on sale on JPC.  I ordered it from Groovesland a couple weeks ago, I hope to receive it sometime this week.  I see Nott as the spiritual successor to Bertini as Vanska is for Boulez.  So I can see both being happy on my shelf.