Mahler Mania, Rebooted

Jo498 · April 27, 2020, 11:18:00 PM

OTOH such march/signal motives abound in Mahler's music since the 1st symphony, so maybe it is almost coincidental. Or he really liked this one and made it prominent in the 5th.

ritter · April 27, 2020, 11:32:52 PM

Well, Mahler's "prophetical" qualities don't only apply to his own work. In the first movement of the Third, we fleetingly can hear a snippet from the 1920 popular song When you're smiling by Shay, Fischer and Goodwin, and in the climax of the ruhevoll, poco adagio of the Fourth, we can hear the beginning of Richard Strauss's Rosenkavalier waltz.

krummholz · April 28, 2020, 03:40:14 AM

Quote from: ritter on April 27, 2020, 11:32:52 PM
Well, Mahler's "prophetical" qualities don't only apply to his own work. In the first movement of the Third, we fleetingly can hear a snippet from the 1920 popular song When you're smiling by Shay, Fischer and Goodwin, and in the climax of the ruhevoll, poco adagio of the Fourth, we can hear the beginning of Richard Strauss's Rosenkavalier waltz.

Not to mention that he foretold the popular song "I'll be seeing you in all the old familiar places" in the last movement of the 3rd...

Mahlerian · April 28, 2020, 06:16:26 AM

There's also a bit of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer in the Second's Urlicht...

vers la flamme · April 28, 2020, 09:39:35 AM

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 28, 2020, 06:16:26 AM
There's also a bit of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer in the Second's Urlicht...

I'll have to listen again and see if I can pick it out, but I love Urlicht and I've never made that connection.

krummholz · April 28, 2020, 10:30:32 AM

Quote from: vers la flamme on April 28, 2020, 09:39:35 AM
I'll have to listen again and see if I can pick it out, but I love Urlicht and I've never made that connection.

My guess: he's referring to the piccolo figure 4 bars after rehearsal mark 4...

calyptorhynchus · April 28, 2020, 01:41:41 PM

Ha, this could be a thread "popular tunes prefigured in the classics". My favourite: "Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree" in the finale of the Emperor Concerto.

Herman · April 30, 2020, 09:28:57 AM

About the Amsterdam 2020 Mahler Festival, which has been cancelled due to the pandemic.

It has been announced today that the Concertgebouw wants to do a digital Mahler Festival this summer, broadcasting the symphonies via social media, and do some peripheral stuff. All performances would be by the Concertgebouw Orchestra.

I have not been able to find a program on the Concertgebouw site yet.

Keeping you posted.

André · April 30, 2020, 12:13:33 PM

Much appreciated, Herman !

vers la flamme · April 30, 2020, 12:37:49 PM

Quote from: Herman on April 30, 2020, 09:28:57 AM
About the Amsterdam 2020 Mahler Festival, which has been cancelled due to the pandemic.

It has been announced today that the Concertgebouw wants to do a digital Mahler Festival this summer, broadcasting the symphonies via social media, and do some peripheral stuff. All performances would be by the Concertgebouw Orchestra.

I have not been able to find a program on the Concertgebouw site yet.

Keeping you posted.

I'll be there... looking forward to updates.

Herman · May 07, 2020, 10:30:15 AM

Here's news about the online Amsterdam Mahler Festival.

Tonight, May 8th, the Mahler Festival Online starts at 20.30 Amsterdam time with streams on Facebook.com/concertgebouw and mahlerfestival.nl. That's tomorrow, for Symphony nr 1.

I'm sorry a lot of this material (on the Mahlerfestival site) is counterintuitive and in Dutch.

I believe they stream a symphony every successive night.

•Symfonie nr. 1 o.l.v. Mariss Jansons (2013)

•Symfonie nr. 2 o.l.v. Daniele Gatti (2016)

•Symfonie nr. 3 o.l.v. Mariss Jansons (2010)

•Symfonie nr. 4 o.l.v. Iván Fischer (2010)

•Symfonie nr. 5 o.l.v. Daniele Gatti (2010)

•Symfonie nr. 6 o.l.v. Lorin Maazel (2010)

•Symfonie nr. 7 o.l.v. Pierre Boulez (2011)

•Symfonie nr. 8 o.l.v. Mariss Jansons (2011)

•Symfonie nr. 9 o.l.v. Bernard Haitink (2011)

•Das Lied von der Erde o.l.v. Fabio Luisi (2011)

André · May 07, 2020, 03:55:39 PM

I was there for the Gatti #5, along with another GMGer ! Can it be 10 years already ?

Nos 6 and 9 interest me. Thanks, Herman!

vers la flamme · May 08, 2020, 02:14:45 AM

Oh, these are recorded performances from years past? For some reason I was expecting live performances streamed.

Madiel · May 08, 2020, 02:46:55 AM

You can't put an orchestra together right now, and I doubt that streaming technology is really good enough to coordinate a large orchestra remotely and get a good outcome.

Herman · May 08, 2020, 05:40:32 AM

Quote from: vers la flamme on May 08, 2020, 02:14:45 AM
Oh, these are recorded performances from years past? For some reason I was expecting live performances streamed.

You know orchestras are in quarantaine now.

Herman · May 08, 2020, 05:42:18 AM

There are introductory talks before every symphony. Today the RCOA's leader of the double bass section talks about the solo in the First Symphony.

Herman · May 10, 2020, 11:27:22 AM

Re: the Amsterdam Online Mahler Festival, since the symphonies are all recycled video concerts, the extras, talks with musicians and conductors and others are the really interesting part.

Herman · May 14, 2020, 10:31:30 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC6EGMGEENc

Mahler 7 tonight, Concertgebouworkest, Boulez

André · May 14, 2020, 01:21:01 PM

Thanks Herman! Do you know how long the link remains available?

Herman · May 21, 2020, 02:58:44 AM

The latest announcement by the Concertgebouw Orchestra is they are going to have a Mahler Festival, with international orchestras in the summer of 2021. Those orchestras will be swinging by on their way from a Leipzig festival at the same time.

The program will feature Mahler symphonies 1 thru 6.

And that's the last Mahler I will be hearing. I'd like a Sibelius Festival in 2025 or so. The Concertgebouw hardly ever performs Sibelius.