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« Reply #640 on: January 13, 2018, 08:02:55 AM »
Gramophone explores Alpine Symphony recordings, follow the Twitter link below. A nice listing of performances spanning almost a century, not surprised by their top choice, but I was thrilled to see the positive mention of the Frank Shipway and Sao Paulo Symphony Orchestra's recording on BIS. In a post here on GMG from last October I said the SPSO "play their hearts out", and for the magazine Hugo Shirley writes that they "play out of their skins for him (Shipway)".


https://twitter.com/GramophoneMag/status/952099162241282049

Cool, Greg. Alpine Symphony is one of the all-time great works in the symphonic repertoire IMHO. HvK’s account still stirs emotions inside of me that not many others have done. I know you’re not a great fan of HvK’s Strauss, but, for me, he always performed this music with a passion and flowing lyricism that’s hardly been bettered.

Here’s a direct link to that Gramophone article:

https://www.gramophone.co.uk/feature/strauss-alpine-symphony-which-recording-to-own?utm_content=buffer09e98&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Re: Richard Strauss's house
« Reply #641 on: January 13, 2018, 08:10:03 AM »
Cool, Greg. Alpine Symphony is one of the all-time great works in the symphonic repertoire IMHO. HvK’s account still stirs emotions inside of me that not many others have done. I know you’re not a great fan of HvK’s Strauss, but, for me, he always performed this music with a passion and flowing lyricism that’s hardly been bettered.

Here’s a direct link to that Gramophone article:

https://www.gramophone.co.uk/feature/strauss-alpine-symphony-which-recording-to-own?utm_content=buffer09e98&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Hi, John. Happy New Year!

It's less of I'm not a fan of HVK's Strauss, and more of I think there's better out there. Although this is one recording that doesn't stay too far away...
https://www.amazon.com/Strauss-Karajan-Berlin-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B000001GQF/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1515859737&sr=1-3&keywords=strauss+karajan
And it has been a while since I've listened to his Alpine.

Thanks for posting the link.

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Re: Richard Strauss's house
« Reply #642 on: January 13, 2018, 08:32:55 AM »
For me, it's still this baby:

http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2010/12/best-recordings-of-2010-2.html

...and I've listened to most that have come out since or just before. Lots of great recordings, but I find that one unusually vivid, even if that's perhaps a surprise, given the conductor/orchestra. (LSO/Haitink)

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« Reply #643 on: January 13, 2018, 09:00:03 AM »
Hi, John. Happy New Year!

It's less of I'm not a fan of HVK's Strauss, and more of I think there's better out there. Although this is one recording that doesn't stay too far away...
https://www.amazon.com/Strauss-Karajan-Berlin-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B000001GQF/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1515859737&sr=1-3&keywords=strauss+karajan
And it has been a while since I've listened to his Alpine.

Thanks for posting the link.

Happy New Year to you, too! 8) I’d like to revisit Kempe’s and Sinopoli’s Alpine at some point. Also, I have the Jansons, too, in that article that they say is the ‘Showcase’ version. I have yet to hear it. Perhaps over the weekend I’ll finally get around to it.
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« Reply #645 on: July 27, 2019, 07:24:59 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/zsTo7QxxgYg" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/zsTo7QxxgYg</a>

An atomic performance!

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« Reply #646 on: August 07, 2019, 10:42:25 AM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/zsTo7QxxgYg" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/zsTo7QxxgYg</a>

An atomic performance!

German orchestras make that rich sound built from the bass up that so suits this music.... really impressive performance for sure!

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« Reply #647 on: August 07, 2019, 02:29:35 PM »
German orchestras make that rich sound built from the bass up that so suits this music.... really impressive performance for sure!

Another performance with the same forces is found on this CD:



Though not completely sure whether it's a different performance to that on YouTube.
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« Reply #648 on: September 06, 2019, 10:57:00 PM »
I'm not a fan of the conductor -- Orozco-Estrada -- at all (from whatever I heard with him with the Tonkuenstler and on record thus) and I am more than skeptical about his taking over the VSO from Joran, but that recording is top-notch, indeed.

Recent #CDReviews on ClassicsToday:



Karl Böhm’s #AlpineSymphony Revisited

https://classicstoday.com/review/karl-bohms-alpine-symphony-revisited/



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« Reply #649 on: September 07, 2019, 01:19:47 AM »
If you're not as much into dissonance and/or a significant move away from late Romanticism I wouldn't recommend Elektra.

Salome and Die Alpensinfonie are my favorite pieces by Strauss. I also love the 4 songs very much.

There's an entertaining dvd movie of Salome with Teresa Stratas that I recommend.

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« Reply #650 on: September 07, 2019, 06:45:00 AM »
If you're not as much into dissonance and/or a significant move away from late Romanticism I wouldn't recommend Elektra.

Salome and Die Alpensinfonie are my favorite pieces by Strauss. I also love the 4 songs very much.

There's an entertaining dvd movie of Salome with Teresa Stratas that I recommend.

I love all those pieces as well, Andy.  I get the pleasure of hearing Renee Fleming perform the Four Last Songs in less than two weeks with the Winnipeg Symphony Orchestra.
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« Reply #651 on: September 07, 2019, 10:36:22 AM »
My ongoing Alpine-Symphony Marathon:

 

   

   

   

   

   



I admire your stamina! How many recordings a day? As much as I like this pinnacle of orchestral music, in my case, I couldn't stand more than three listens.

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« Reply #652 on: September 07, 2019, 12:50:44 PM »
I admire your stamina! How many recordings a day? As much as I like this pinnacle of orchestral music, in my case, I couldn't stand more than three listens.

I could probably listen to five a day, if I found the time. But there's much other listening going on right now, so I managed max. 2 per day.


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« Reply #653 on: September 07, 2019, 12:52:23 PM »
I admire your stamina! How many recordings a day? As much as I like this pinnacle of orchestral music, in my case, I couldn't stand more than three listens.

Scary how many of those versions I know.  But WOT!!! - No Wit/Weimar Staatskappelle on Naxos..... in the midst of many favourites you list that is one near the summit (geddit!) of my enjoyment

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« Reply #654 on: September 07, 2019, 01:21:30 PM »
Scary how many of those versions I know.  But WOT!!! - No Wit/Weimar Staatskappelle on Naxos..... in the midst of many favourites you list that is one near the summit (geddit!) of my enjoyment

Summit! Very good. It's an ongoing process. I'll take a peak (geddit!). I don't have that recording yet, but that's an obstacle I shall -- wait for it -- surmount! :-)

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« Reply #655 on: September 07, 2019, 02:00:53 PM »
Do you review them on your blog, Jens? I’m very interested on your views on all these recordings. 40 years ago the Alpine Symphony was sniffed at. Now it’s all the rage (with good reason).

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« Reply #656 on: September 08, 2019, 12:12:54 AM »
Do you review them on your blog, Jens? I’m very interested on your views on all these recordings. 40 years ago the Alpine Symphony was sniffed at. Now it’s all the rage (with good reason).

For those that I don't get a review in on ClassicsToday (or where my opinion differs too wildly from the ClassicsToday opinion), that's a good idea! I've always loved that work and never quite understood it being pooh-poohed.

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« Reply #657 on: September 08, 2019, 09:50:43 AM »
Go for it !  ;)

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« Reply #658 on: September 11, 2019, 12:30:17 PM »
My ongoing Alpine-Symphony Marathon:

 

   

   

   

   

   

   

        

Cover-art check: More than half the covers go with the tried-and-true picture of mountains/alps in some way. :-) (So did the original EMI release of Welser-Moest's Alpine Symphony... but it went with the re-issue.

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« Reply #659 on: September 11, 2019, 03:43:39 PM »
Mehta’s Berliner Phil is one of my favourite versions. I look forward to read your opinion on all these recordings !!