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Re: Diabelli Variations
« Reply #120 on: May 11, 2022, 04:07:54 PM »
Updated favorites (used to only like Serkin on Columbia or BBC), in no particular order:

R. Serkin (Columbia and BBC)
Brautigam
Kovacevich* live (Onyx)
Gulda (Harmonia Mundi France)
Schnabel - uneven but much to like, a smiling performance (edit: removed part on transfers, it was some of the Beethoven Piano Sonatas I found superior on Pearl, I will have to revisit the Pearl transfers for Diabelli Variations)

*never understood what was special about his Philips recording other than sounding much better than Serkin on Columbia when these might have been the two major label releases widely available to people.

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Re: Diabelli Variations
« Reply #121 on: May 11, 2022, 04:34:55 PM »
Updated favorites (used to only like Serkin on Columbia or BBC), in no particular order:

R. Serkin (Columbia and BBC)
Brautigam
Kovacevich* live (Onyx)
Gulda (Harmonia Mundi France)
Schnabel - uneven but much to like, a smiling performance (IMO still has to be heard on the Pearl transfer, the Naxos dampens the high end too much making this more forgettable than it really is)

*never understood what was special about his Philips recording other than sounding much better than Serkin on Columbia when these might have been the two major label releases widely available to people.



Whereas I prefer the Philips out of the two. It was a top choice for me for quite a while along with the Schnabel but at that stage there wasn't a wide choice of Diabelli recordings. As the CD catalog expanded to include some not previously released from LP to CD the choice expanded and my favourites changed.

I ended up adding Rudolf Serkin (Columbia Masterworks) that I found in a second hand bin and also his M&A recording from the 1954 Prades festival. I also added the Philips Arrau that I had to send away for on line. I also included Richter but I'm not sure I got the best one from a selection of recordings from both 1970 and 1986. He certainly has something to say in this work. I have a number of other recordings that I've listed in a previous post
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Re: Diabelli Variations
« Reply #122 on: May 11, 2022, 11:16:49 PM »
Updated favorites (used to only like Serkin on Columbia or BBC), in no particular order:

R. Serkin (Columbia and BBC)
The Columbia is also live, isn't it?

Did you try the "excentrics", like Mustonen, Ugorski, maybe (not quite as weird) Anderszewski? Or Sokolov who is not really excentric but rather slow and massive.
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Re: Diabelli Variations
« Reply #123 on: May 12, 2022, 12:31:50 AM »
The Columbia is also live, isn't it?

Did you try the "excentrics", like Mustonen, Ugorski, maybe (not quite as weird) Anderszewski? Or Sokolov who is not really excentric but rather slow and massive.

Yes, I just had a look - Serkin, Marlborough Festival 1957.

I've got the Sokolov and find it ponderous. The Ugorski left me with a "WTF"?
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Re: Diabelli Variations
« Reply #124 on: May 12, 2022, 04:05:08 AM »


Just purchased. Any opinion on this recording ? Thanks !

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Re: Diabelli Variations
« Reply #125 on: May 12, 2022, 04:18:56 AM »
Rudolf Buchbinder | The Diabelli Project



"Celebrated pianist and renowned Beethoven specialist Rudolf Buchbinder releases his first album on Deutsche Grammophon. The collaboration includes not only his own new interpretation of Beethoven’s Diabelli Variations but he has also commissioned 12 new variations, just as Anton Diabelli did in 1819 and has recorded 8 variations of those that Diabelli received back from the composers he wrote to back then." (DG)

This is m latest recording of this work that I have been enjoying.  Buchbinder also released a book centered on the DV, as well as describe his musical journey.  Both the recording and the book are well worth listening to and reading.

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Re: Diabelli Variations
« Reply #126 on: May 12, 2022, 04:27:40 PM »
The Columbia is also live, isn't it?

Did you try the "excentrics", like Mustonen, Ugorski, maybe (not quite as weird) Anderszewski? Or Sokolov who is not really excentric but rather slow and massive.

Ugorski is too bizarre. I agree with Holden on Sokolov (Naïve, in case there is another), too ponderous. I haven't heard Mustonen or Anderszewski.

Whereas I prefer the Philips out of the two. It was a top choice for me for quite a while along with the Schnabel but at that stage there wasn't a wide choice of Diabelli recordings. As the CD catalog expanded to include some not previously released from LP to CD the choice expanded and my favourites changed.

I ended up adding Rudolf Serkin (Columbia Masterworks) that I found in a second hand bin and also his M&A recording from the 1954 Prades festival. I also added the Philips Arrau that I had to send away for on line. I also included Richter but I'm not sure I got the best one from a selection of recordings from both 1970 and 1986. He certainly has something to say in this work. I have a number of other recordings that I've listed in a previous post

Thanks for mentioning Arrau Philips, I heard this some 20+ years ago in the Philips box but I don't think I've played it since then. My fuse is quite short with Diabelli Variations.
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