Started by karlhenning, April 02, 2008, 12:44:20 PM
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Quote from: karlhenning on September 21, 2008, 02:50:06 PMOf course, they're late opus-numbers, and comparatively large-scale; apart from these obvious pointers, the Cantatas are signal high points in Webern's oeuvre . . . these more than any of his music make one weep that his life was cut off.
Quote from: James on September 21, 2008, 09:05:23 PMYou bet. I bought that expensive set and have every right to offer my opinion of it.
Quote from: donwyn on September 21, 2008, 07:24:26 PMYes, those Cantatas truly are great works!
Quote from: James on September 21, 2008, 09:05:23 PMPlus no unnecessary juvenilia to wade through...
Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on September 22, 2008, 05:37:00 AM.... i wonder what he'd sound like if he wrote 30 more years?
Quote from: lukeottevanger on September 22, 2008, 05:38:55 AMYeah, another minute or so of Webern would be great, wouldn't it?
Quote from: karlhenning on September 22, 2008, 05:47:33 AMHey, I like the Opus 27, Greg!(Sorry, I mean GGGGRRREEG . . . .)
Quote from: James on September 22, 2008, 08:14:05 AMZimmerman's reading of op.27 isn't that good...try Pollini.
Quote from: Guido on September 22, 2008, 02:10:38 AMI seem to remember reading that these cantatas may have some antisemitic connotations in the text... Am I remembering correctly?
Quote from: donwyn on September 22, 2008, 05:18:51 PMGuido,Speaking for myself, I've never heard of anyone having issues with the texts of the Cantatas. But then again I haven't really investigated the idea so there could be info out there I'm not aware of. Reading over the texts earlier today I can't say as anything really jumps out at me that would point to antisemitism. Unless I'm overlooking some subtle reference that's completely over my head.It's hard of course not to notice all the other references in these texts, Christian orthodoxy, paganism, demonic ("cloud of hostility"), but beyond that from where I sit it all seems pretty harmless. How do you feel about it? Is there something that's tugging at you?
Quote from: James on September 21, 2008, 08:30:54 AMyeah...it includes a lot of juvenilia and the DG set is poorly recorded, i was shocked because usually with Boulez things are up close & clear but not with that set, the music sounds like the orchestra is playing it at the bottom of the Grand Canyon with the listener at the top. the Sony set is superior because it's less ambient and more up close and clear, like being sat amoungst the musicians.
Quote from: James on September 23, 2008, 05:16:16 AMAll Im saying is that there is better out there, DG is often guilty of distance/reverb issues with their recordings...and I especially don't like listening to Webern like that, it's far too ambient and inappropriate.
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 23, 2008, 05:30:23 AMBut, I better understand your point now--and I have no problem with the way you state it now: no claim of inferior recording or mistake made by another forum member. Just an explanation of why you prefer Sony.
Quote from: ClaudiusWhy, now you speakLike a good child and a true gentleman.That I am guiltless of th'ambient noise,And am most sensible in grief for it,It shall as level to your judgment pierceAs day does to your eye
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