Serialism

[rappy]

Let's see...

[Maciek]

What if I listen to it sometimes but not because of education - but because I like some of it (just as I like some of the tonal music I know)? I think you should add another option to the poll...?

Maciek

[rappy]

Done.

[Symphonien]

I voted sometimes, since I haven't heard much yet. But I don't see what's so bad about it, if it sounds good.

[lukeottevanger]

I voted sometimes, since I haven't heard much yet. But I don't see what's so bad about it, if it sounds good.

An extremely sensible repsonse!

[Maciek]

Done.

Thanks. The new option is of course what I voted for.

[hornteacher]

I have to be in the mood to listen to it (and my wife has to be out of the house). 

[facehugger]

love

[Mark G. Simon]

It depends on what is meant by "serialism" and by who's doing the serializing.

If we reserve the term "serialism" for the strict post-WWII variety of 12-tone writing, I have to say I don't have much use for it. The Schoen-Berg-Web type of 12 tone music is more to my taste. And of course since I love Stravinsky and Copland, their 12-tone efforts are much prized by me. Wuorinen does pretty well with it.

Some composers, like Tobias Picker and Dan Welcher, have used the 12-tone system to write thoroughly tonal-sounding music, often to good effect.

[71 dB]

Frankly, I don't know what it is. I have ideas about what it is but I don't think I have heard much serialism music. I don't even know who were serialists...

[Danny]

Sometimes it sounds oh, so, good!

[71 dB]

This is how I see things:



If the left picture is non-serialism classical music then the picture on the right is serialism.

[Maciek]

I'd say that's more like Mary Cassatt vs. something polystylistic (involving quotes!).

Hey, you just said you didn't know any serial music?!

[71 dB]

Hey, you just said you didn't know any serial music?!

Yeah, that's true. That's why I made visual presentation about how I feel about it.

[Symphonien]

How can you have definite feelings about something if you don't know what it is? That's as bad as those people who have preconceptions about classical music without having even heard any.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

I have to be in the mood to listen to it (and my wife has to be out of the house). 

Ironically my wife would rather be out of the house when I have on anything OTHER than modern/serial/atonal.

I get more positive comments from her about the modern stuff than any other style of music!

I never dreamed it would be this way, what with my own fears about atonal's 'negative' typecasting.

So I consider myself quite lucky!

[71 dB]

How can you have definite feelings about something if you don't know what it is? That's as bad as those people who have preconceptions about classical music without having even heard any.

I'm just like any other person. We all have feelings and preconceptions about things we don't know well. The problem is that many people don't understand the limitations of their knowledge.

[Don Giovanni]

I listen to it fairly regularly. I'm just getting into composers like Nono, Berio and Boulez. I hope to expand my collection and understand this music further.

[Sergeant Rock]

I chose "quite often" not only because I love the Second Viennese school, Valen, Boulez, etc, but because I listen to composers who, while not strict serialists, used the technique; Pettersson, for example, and Stravinsky and Copland as Mark G mentioned.

Sarge

[DavidW]

Rappy, do you really mean serialism or do you mean atonal music?  Serialism is such a small subfield of modern classical that rarely listening to it is not synonymous with distaste for it.