Started by Paul-Michel, April 25, 2008, 05:54:19 AM
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Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 25, 2008, 05:54:19 AMAm I a madman?
Quote from: MN Brahms on April 25, 2008, 07:43:45 AMSchubert is in my first tier of composers.
Quote from: Sforzando on April 25, 2008, 08:10:59 AMSo is he in mine, but I hardly see why it's necessary to denigrate Bach or Beethoven in order to exalt him.
Quote from: Sforzando on April 25, 2008, 08:10:59 AMSo is he in mine, but I hardly see why it's necessary to denigrate Bach or Beethoven in order to exalt him.[/quoteWhat is wrong with everyone here? Why must everything be taken so seriously?Also, I don't see how I deingrated beethoven. But you would see it as that, because you treat these people like gods.
Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 25, 2008, 11:09:19 AMWhy must everything be taken so seriously?
QuoteAm I a madman?
Quote from: Holden on April 25, 2008, 01:38:15 PMSchubert is also one of my favourites and I suppose the thing that stands out for me is his melodic invention. If I was asked to name some of the most moving pieces of melody ever written, Schubert immediately comes to mind - well before Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart or even Bach. The only comoser who comes close is Chopin. Just listen to the String Quintet in C major - one of the music wolds greatest masterpieces IMO and you can see why. But to really hear Schubert at his best you have to listen to his lieder. Such beautiful and moving melodies. Even the simpler ones like Nacht und Traum are just superb.
Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 25, 2008, 05:54:19 AMIt is my personal conviction that out of every composer I know, Schubert must surely be considered the most consistently brilliant.
Quote from: Bach Man on April 25, 2008, 03:45:51 PMHe also lacks the diversity of Beethoven and Bach, but had he lived longer that might have been different.
Quote from: Dm on April 25, 2008, 04:01:05 PMSpeaking of diversity, I wish Schubert had composed a piano concerto or violin concerto ..........
Quote from: jochanaan on April 26, 2008, 03:53:35 PMIt might have been interesting, but I wonder if Schubert didn't realize, at least subconsciously, that he was better at the smaller, subtler forms and could not out-Beethoven Beethoven. (The Great C Major Symphony is a wonderful exception, whether it's #9 or #7. )
Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 25, 2008, 05:54:19 AMwhile avoiding the outright boredom of many of the supposed sincere composers we are supposed to enjoy (like bach!).
Quote from: Dm on April 26, 2008, 06:38:17 PMSchubert could churn out large-scale works along with the best of them. 0:) In addition to the Great C Major Symphony, he wrote six compelling large-scale masses, an oratorio, and over a dozen operas ( ) ....... all within his short lifetime. 0:) They are not as well known as his small-scale stuff, but he certainly could master large-scale materials ..........
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