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Quote from: DavidW on July 15, 2022, 03:17:52 PMSo any favorite recordings of any of the masses?
Quote from: vers la flamme on July 16, 2022, 06:25:29 AMPersonally I like the Weil/Vivarte discs. I have the two late Schubert masses. I also have Sawallisch in Bavaria which I like, but not as much as the Weil. Must admit Schubert's masses may have yet to fully "click" with me.
Quote from: KlassiskDronning on July 15, 2022, 11:46:27 AMI am actually 5"2 (160cm) and just over 200 pounds. I'm even bigger, but most guys do admit I am pretty.I also think it is kinda messed up you would hate him just because of a common condition back in the 1800s. I just see a little contempt here. But whatever. None of that stuff doesn't mean he wasn't hot. You can stick to your plastic boyz, G.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 16, 2022, 07:24:59 AMAt the risk of stating the obvious: this is a forum for the discussion of classical music. If you need to tell the world how pretty you are, this is not that rostrum.
Quote from: Brewski on July 16, 2022, 07:29:37 AMQuite right. In any case, after a flurry of abusive comments, this account has been laid to heavenly rest. 0:)Carry on. --Bruce
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 16, 2022, 07:30:59 AMWhat a bit of luck for us "plastic boyz!"
Quote from: DavidW on July 17, 2022, 06:05:37 AMVS I'm going to try Abbado with the Mass in G which also includes a Schumann work. I'll let you know what I think.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 17, 2022, 06:09:45 AMDo, thanks.
Quote from: Florestan on July 17, 2022, 09:36:02 AMWhat evidence is there for Schubert being a destructive drinker?
QuoteA little over his measure would usually send him alone into a secluded corner where, with narrowed eyes, he grew more silent than the double bassoon in the symphony orchestra. His instinct then was for deeds, not words. He would grin genially and smash all the crockery and glassware within reach - Robert Haven Schauffler
QuoteWhile under the influence, he liked nothing more than to smash glassware and crockery, making him – understandably – a less-than-welcome guest in Vienna's homes and hostelries - Robert Greenberg
Quote from: VonStupp on July 17, 2022, 10:54:20 AMI once read an anecdote about Schubert in a program note once regarding this. The first is from Franz Schubert: The Ariel of Music by Robert Haven Schauffler:And the second from a San Francisco program [Robert Greenberg]:
Quote from: Florestan on July 17, 2022, 11:24:13 AMNeither of those Roberts were contemporaries of, let alone friends / acquaintances of, Schubert so their testimony is to be taken cum grano salis.Did Schubert back then drink more than John Doe drinks today? Probably. Did John Doe back then drink more than John Doe drinks today? Certainly.Once again, during the early 19th century drinking wine or beer was safer than drinking water.
Quote from: DavidW on July 17, 2022, 11:49:28 AMLet's face it. Schubert might be one of the greatest composers that ever lived, but he also is like that guy that had to be duct-taped down in the airplane.
Quote from: DavidW on July 17, 2022, 11:49:28 AMIt is a common misconception that people were just drunk all the time back in the day. It is just not true. Frequently wine or beer would be watered down. And people did actually drink water.
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