Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier

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Mandryka

Quote from: Mandryka on March 01, 2025, 09:17:11 AM

Nice instruments -- a harpsichord (I think, it is most unusual!)  and a clavichord -- sweet and lyrical playing. This on the basis of a couple of sneaky peaks on Spotify.

I'm enjoying this very much. Special instrument - German harpsichord with amazing colours - and expressive imaginative playing.
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Mandryka

Quote from: Mandryka on June 02, 2025, 01:51:11 PMI'm enjoying this very much. Special instrument - amazing colours - and expressive imaginative playing.

Enjoying it slightly less this morning - all the embellishment seems intrusive. One difference is that I'm listening now on big speakers where you can hear everything!

Some clarification 

Vincent Bernhardt offers a reading of this work that highlights the development of the instrumentarium at the time, using a harpsichord and a clavichord, as well as a fortepiano copied from an instrument built in Bach's time.


https://indesenscalliope.com/boutique/le-clavier-bien-tempere-vol-2/
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Que

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Quote from: Mandryka on June 03, 2025, 12:45:00 AMVincent Bernhardt offers a reading of this work that highlights the development of the instrumentarium at the time, using a harpsichord and a clavichord, as well as a fortepiano copied from an instrument built in Bach's time.


https://indesenscalliope.com/boutique/le-clavier-bien-tempere-vol-2/

Doesn't sound like my cup of tea....   ::)

Mandryka

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https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/89/000210398.pdf

https://www.erinhales.com/recordings/js-bach-das-wohltemperierte-klavier-part-2-bwv-870-893


Modern piano, but Erin Hales claims to be historically informed by ideas about keyboard interpretation in Rameau and Emanuel Bach. I think piano people and people with relaxed flexible open minds wouldn't mind giving some time to this.
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AnotherSpin

Quote from: Mandryka on June 03, 2025, 01:07:54 AM

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/89/000210398.pdf

https://www.erinhales.com/recordings/js-bach-das-wohltemperierte-klavier-part-2-bwv-870-893


Modern piano, but Erin Hales claims to be historically informed by ideas about keyboard interpretation in Rameau and Emanuel Bach. I think piano people and people with relaxed flexible open minds wouldn't mind giving some time to this.

I like the piano versions of the WTC, and I feel my mind becoming less and less open. Maybe it's age, or wine, or Iranian drones — or all of it together.

milk

Quote from: Mandryka on June 03, 2025, 01:07:54 AM

https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/89/000210398.pdf

https://www.erinhales.com/recordings/js-bach-das-wohltemperierte-klavier-part-2-bwv-870-893


Modern piano, but Erin Hales claims to be historically informed by ideas about keyboard interpretation in Rameau and Emanuel Bach. I think piano people and people with relaxed flexible open minds wouldn't mind giving some time to this.
I like this. I'm always listening to dynamics and flexible agocics first. There's a magical something in the greats: a naturalness that must be felt. I wonder what kind of piano it is. Or maybe it's the room. Perhaps it's slightly treble-y. I like the touch though.

Mandryka

Quote from: milk on July 02, 2025, 02:46:20 PMThere's a magical something in the greats: a naturalness that must be felt. 

Frank Sinatra had this feel for rubato.
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aukhawk

Just such a shame he couldn't sing in key

Mandryka

Quote from: aukhawk on July 05, 2025, 03:03:24 AMJust such a shame he couldn't sing in key

You classical music types are obsessed by pitch.
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prémont

Quote from: Mandryka on July 05, 2025, 04:08:53 AMYou classical music types are obsessed by pitch.

Obviously because this is the key to many musical performance problems.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Mandryka

Quote from: prémont on July 05, 2025, 05:22:02 AMObviously because this is the key to many musical performance problems.


We think of the key, each in his prison
Thinking of the key, each confirms a prison
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prémont

Quote from: Mandryka on July 05, 2025, 06:03:13 AMWe think of the key, each in his prison
Thinking of the key, each confirms a prison


But I want to know the reason
why a key should be like a prison.
In a prison it's only the key
which is able to set us free.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Mandryka

Quote from: prémont on July 05, 2025, 07:56:43 AMBut I want to know the reason
why a key should be like a prison.
In a prison it's only the key
which is able to set us free.

Because the illusion of being trapped in a prison is coeval with the illusion of needing a key to be free.
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aukhawk

The way you wear your hat
The way you sing off key
The memory of all that
They can't take that away from me.