Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier

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Opus106

Quote from: Coopmv on February 13, 2009, 09:32:59 AM
Has anyone ever heard the WTC by Jill Crossland?

Don (Bulldog) has, and recently, so too has Dave (SonicMan). Some of the posts in previous pages of this thread should contain their views on the set.
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Navneeth

Coopmv

Quote from: opus67 on February 13, 2009, 09:37:50 AM
Don (Bulldog) has, and recently, so too has Dave (SonicMan). Some of the posts in previous pages of this thread should contain their views on the set.

Don responded to my inquiry in a different thread.  I will get the WTC set by Jill Crossland.  Many of the smaller English labels are such bargains at MDT lately due to the recent strength of the dollar.

Mandryka

HAve any of you guys heard Daniel Ben Pienaar play WTC?

It sounds great to me -- expressive and virtuosic.

You can hear it for free here:

http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/dbp-wtc1a/
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darĂ¼ber muss man schweigen

SonicMan46

Quote from: Coopmv on February 13, 2009, 09:32:59 AM
Has anyone ever heard the WTC by Jill Crossland?



Oops - comin' in late to this post & issues may have been answered, but Don & I posted back on pg. 5 of this thread, and also in the 'listening thread' - this set has received superlative reviews in Fanfare, MusicWeb, & the Signum website, the latter quotes; and the price for me was hard to beat packaged as a 4-CD offering!  Dave  :D

Coopmv

Quote from: Mandryka on February 23, 2009, 08:58:13 PM
HAve any of you guys heard Daniel Ben Pienaar play WTC?

It sounds great to me -- expressive and virtuosic.

You can hear it for free here:

http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/dbp-wtc1a/

It sounds quite good and very expressive.  It does not look like the CD's are available on either Amazon or MDT though ....

Mandryka

Quote from: Coopmv on February 24, 2009, 04:43:51 PM
It sounds quite good and very expressive.  It does not look like the CD's are available on either Amazon or MDT though ....

While your at it check the cello suites by Vito Paternoster on magnatunes -- again expressive and interesting.

I think magnatunes is always sole supplier oftheir artists.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darĂ¼ber muss man schweigen

Dr. Dread

Just ordered the Gould.

Uh...he only recorded one cycle, right?  ;D

Bulldog

Quote from: Mn Dave on February 25, 2009, 11:59:15 AM
Just ordered the Gould.

Uh...he only recorded one cycle, right?  ;D

That's what we've been told. :D

Dr. Dread

Quote from: Bulldog on February 25, 2009, 12:12:08 PM
That's what we've been told. :D

Phew. I hate being told I ordered the "wrong" one.  ::)

SonicMan46

Well, for piano I now (after much culling over the years) own Jill Crossland in both Books (excellent value box package at present) & Book I w/ Craig Sheppard (his book II is out & will likely be a purchase).  :)

Now, I still have no 'harpsichord' version - I know many have already been discussed on this thread which goes back to '07 - I've been tracking these (and others) and seem to have Wilson & Dantone on my 'wish list' - the Wilson discs are too expensive & Dantone gets a mixed rating on Amazon HERE, but the Marketplace prices are acceptable.

So, how about an 'update' for the WTC on harpsichord - are the same contenders 'in the ring'?  Any 'new ones' or 're-issues' out there in the last 2 years?  And, finally whatever is listed, are the sets available in the US or in Europe at decent prices?  Thanks.  :)


 

Bulldog

Quote from: SonicMan on February 27, 2009, 06:17:29 AM
Now, I still have no 'harpsichord' version - I know many have already been discussed on this thread which goes back to '07 - I've been tracking these (and others) and seem to have Wilson & Dantone on my 'wish list' - the Wilson discs are too expensive & Dantone gets a mixed rating on Amazon HERE, but the Marketplace prices are acceptable.

So, how about an 'update' for the WTC on harpsichord - are the same contenders 'in the ring'?  Any 'new ones' or 're-issues' out there in the last 2 years?  And, finally whatever is listed, are the sets available in the US or in Europe at decent prices?  Thanks.  :)

These are the newer WTC's I'm aware of:

Suzuki - Bk. 2/BIS
Watchorn - Bk. 1/Musica Omnia
Egarr - Bk. 1/Harmonia Mundi

All three are available; Watchorn is the least expensive ($16).  Suzuki and Watchorn would be my picks of the three, but neither reaches the Wilson.

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: Bulldog on February 27, 2009, 08:21:43 AM
These are the newer WTC's I'm aware of:

Suzuki - Bk. 2/BIS
Watchorn - Bk. 1/Musica Omnia
Egarr - Bk. 1/Harmonia Mundi

All three are available; Watchorn is the least expensive ($16).  Suzuki and Watchorn would be my picks of the three, but neither reaches the Wilson.

... and this (beautiful) one by Katherine Roberts Perl on Magnatune (Bk. 2):

http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/kperl-clavier1/

Bulldog

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Quote from: Antoine Marchand on February 27, 2009, 08:35:21 AM
... and this (beautiful) one by Katherine Roberts Perl on Magnatune (Bk. 2):

http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/kperl-clavier1/

Thanks - a good supply of samples.  Certainly sounds lovely and first-rate on initial listening.

I'm modifying this just to add that I also checked out the samples from Perl's French Suites - also very enticing.

Antoine Marchand

#153
You are welcome, Don.

She's a great American harpsichordist.

Fortunatelly these recordings will be largely available, although her previous CDs are impossible to find  :-\.

SonicMan46

Don & Antoine - thanks for the additional comments and recommendation; Glenn Wilson still is at the top of my 'want list' in these works on harpsichord, but 'Arkiv Music' wants basically $30 per book!  Oh well, think that I'll wait a little longer - BTW, I know these names have come up before - Kenneth Gilbert on harpsichord & Ralph Kirkpatrick on clavichord (seems to be just one of the books for each?) - thanks all!  :D


Antoine Marchand

BTW, Sonic, my own favorite version is played by Jaroslav Tůma (Arta Records) on clavichord.

I recommended it in other thread, but actually is almost unknown, although the Bk. 1 was previously edited on Supraphon.

And here some examples from You Tube:

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=T8MTthGkfl8

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=3OTJU0mwyQg

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=3M0ZqetN7A8

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=1oOyXgNL6HU


SonicMan46

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on February 27, 2009, 02:37:17 PM
BTW, Sonic, my own favorite version is played by Jaroslav Tůma (Arta Records) on clavichord.

I recommended it in other thread, but actually is almost unknown, although the Bk. 1 was previously edited on Supraphon.

And here some examples from You Tube:


Antoine - thanks for the additional information, and I do remember the performer above - on my laptop now, so can't really appreciate the performances unless I plug in some earphones; however, I was just checking Amazon - seems to be a lot of interesting offerings by this artist on the clavichord but most are OOP and being offered at escalated prices - any sources that you may know worth pursuing @ a decent price?  Dave

Bulldog

Quote from: SonicMan on February 27, 2009, 01:25:30 PM
Don & Antoine - thanks for the additional comments and recommendation; Glenn Wilson still is at the top of my 'want list' in these works on harpsichord, but 'Arkiv Music' wants basically $30 per book!  Oh well, think that I'll wait a little longer - BTW, I know these names have come up before - Kenneth Gilbert on harpsichord & Ralph Kirkpatrick on clavichord (seems to be just one of the books for each?) - thanks all!  :D


Both Kirkpatrick Bks. are for sale on ArkivMusic.  The Wilson price might seem high, but music making this good is certainly worth it.  Of course, that's easy for me to say since I've got them already.

Antoine Marchand

The compressed formats are rather unfair with some subtle sonorities. But the four discs recorded by Tůma have excellent SQ.

AFAIK, Dave, the best options to buy these recordings are two:

jpc:

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Johann%20Sebastian%20Bach%3A%20Das%20Wohltemperierte%20Klavier%201%202/hnum/2061729

Arta Records:

http://www.arta.cz/index.php?p=f10165en&site=en

I bought my own set in the latter, together with other four or five discs because they were very cheap. My only problem was to learn how much is one Czech crown. They charged the price in dollars to my credit card, using a secure server.



Coopmv

I sometimes wonder if Glenn Gould's performance of WTC really deserves all the accolate.  The bottomline is whether Glenn Gould performed WTC as Bach had intended ...