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Quote from: Mirror Image on December 30, 2019, 04:53:41 PMOne of my all-time favorite works is Schoenberg's Five Pieces for Orchestra. For me, it is better than anything that has come before and after in his oeuvre. I'm a huge fan of this middle period or as it's been called 'free atonal period' where there's no rules and is completely up in the air as far as where the music goes. Five Pieces for Orchestra resonates deeply for me because you can hear a composer that knows he can no longer accept the German/Austrian tradition (even though he never truly abandoned it and, ironically, felt he was a part of the same lineage as Schubert, Brahms, Wagner, etc.). Schoenberg, of course, never fully turned his back on tonality and many of his works embraced it. He's actually not difficult to crack at all, but he does require much listening in order to fully assimilate everything that is happening in his music. I, too, prefer the string sextet arrangement of Verklärte Nacht, but I like the string orchestra arrangement as well.
Quote from: Mirror Image on December 30, 2019, 05:03:33 PMThis is the image I used for my Schoenberg t-shirt:
Quote from: vers la flamme on December 30, 2019, 05:13:28 PMThis is the other one I got:[asin]B00000JYTV[/asin]Have yet to hear it, but the Schoenberg on there is pretty damn solid!
Quote from: vers la flamme on December 30, 2019, 05:13:28 PMPerhaps not in a general sense, but for me, he is, especially compared to supposedly "difficult" composers like Webern and Boulez who came to me very easily. It's much the same way that I feel about Brahms. His music is a constantly rewarding challenge, a puzzle for my brain to work together. It's all so layered, dense, and contrapuntal, and there is always so much going on as you allude to. For this reason it is extremely rewarding to repeated listens. I feel the same way about late Webern, but again, I find it much more simple on a fundamental level.Speaking of late Webern, I got two CDs today that contain recordings of the piano variations. I'm listening to one of them now...:[asin]B000001GQK[/asin]Pretty damn good recording, I think. More fiery than my preferred recording, from a young Idil Biret. This is the other one I got:[asin]B00000JYTV[/asin]Have yet to hear it, but the Schoenberg on there is pretty damn solid!
Quote from: Leo K. on October 06, 2022, 08:08:55 AMBeen listening to various recordings of Webern's Symphony, Op.21. Perhaps my favorite symphony of all time, or close.
Quote from: Mandryka on October 16, 2022, 08:26:05 PMYes I can understand why you might say that. Did you see that Heinz Holliger released a recording of it a couple of months ago? I'm not sure I like what he makes of it but maybe . . .
Quote from: Mandryka on October 17, 2022, 01:22:12 PMHolliger really slows things down. It's extraordinary how fresh the music sounds in all its uncomfortable strangeness. Timeless I guess. There's an early recording by Craft which I like very much.
Quote from: Leo K. on October 20, 2022, 10:39:52 AM It seems Eliahu Inbal stretched the first movement out too (on the Denon label) - very transfixing account, like walking in Kafka's world. Yes I love the strangeness and the almost-reference to Mahler's 9 (the beginning) so it looks backward too.
Quote from: Atriod on May 28, 2023, 07:07:42 AMRobert Craft is getting a big Sony mega box of recordings. I wrote this box off based off my impressions of the 4 CD Webern set which I immediately ordered without streaming given the lack of Webern recordings. My first (and only) impression was not so favorable, Craft is a literalist almost to a fault. Contrast this to Boulez on DG that would paint these sparse, haunting images in pieces like the cantatas that made me immediately fall for Webern. I'm open to revisiting this Craft set again. Someone on another board says the Schoenberg is the main highlight of the upcoming 44 disc Craft box and up until now these have never been on digital so I'd only be able to hear them if someone transferred their LP and uploaded it to you Youtube. I find Craft a fine conductor of Schoenberg and Stravinsky on Naxos and enjoyed two of his books on Stravinsky, he is clearly someone that understands this music.
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