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ibanezmonster

Quote from: EigenUser on August 02, 2015, 03:31:37 PM
I don't want to come across as an expert, (because I am not at all!), but I get the impression that overtraining is significantly harder than we think it is. About 2.5 months ago I started doing compound lifts much more frequently several times a week (3, 2, 2 times per week for squats, bench, DLs, respectively, and all 5 reps by 5 sets) and I have improved drastically. I also hardly get sore.

Then again, I don't know what your goals/intentions are. I'd like to possibly, at some point, try and compete in a powerlifting competition if I can find something that is amiable to easily-intimidated beginners, hence why I focus on those three things so much.
I've also wondered about the whole idea of overtraining... the only time I feel soreness is when I push myself more than normal, and even then, it's extremely rare to last until the next day. (I probably could do more, might even help a lot).  ;D

Of course, everyone is different... I know people that are new to lifting usually experience soreness and shouldn't lift more than 3 days a week, while bodybuilders who use steroids can lift 6-7 days a week if they want. So I guess overtraining is all relative...

To be honest (and I know this is no excuse for anything, but just saying how I feel), if I could look like He-man in a month by just lifting non-stop, it would be much more exciting than being able to look possibly halfway like that at the most over the course of several years of spending a fraction of the time lifting each week... (not implying I'd ever be interested in steroids, yuck)

Besides that, thought of some other stuff that is exciting enough (and some of what I'm doing is becoming more exciting). Should be good for quite a while. Bring to mind this image that sort of relates...



fixation on one thing, kinda lost without it sort of feeling?

EigenUser

Quote from: Greg on August 02, 2015, 07:28:14 PM
I've also wondered about the whole idea of overtraining... the only time I feel soreness is when I push myself more than normal, and even then, it's extremely rare to last until the next day. (I probably could do more, might even help a lot).  ;D

Of course, everyone is different... I know people that are new to lifting usually experience soreness and shouldn't lift more than 3 days a week, while bodybuilders who use steroids can lift 6-7 days a week if they want. So I guess overtraining is all relative...

To be honest (and I know this is no excuse for anything, but just saying how I feel), if I could look like He-man in a month by just lifting non-stop, it would be much more exciting than being able to look possibly halfway like that at the most over the course of several years of spending a fraction of the time lifting each week... (not implying I'd ever be interested in steroids, yuck)
I lift 6 days a week and I certainly don't do steroids, haha. You just have to spread things out properly. Then again, it doesn't really matter much if you think it is boring.

Also, I bet that you'd find this guy entertaining (if you haven't already seen him). My favorite one is probably this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-oRydlnCE
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

ibanezmonster

Quote from: EigenUser on August 03, 2015, 09:56:03 AM
Then again, it doesn't really matter much if you think it is boring.
That would be my biggest problem.  :-X


Quote from: EigenUser on August 03, 2015, 09:56:03 AM
Also, I bet that you'd find this guy entertaining (if you haven't already seen him). My favorite one is probably this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-oRydlnCE
I've seen that. I must be the odd minority that actually likes leg day the most...

ibanezmonster

#5623
Looks like with my upcoming schedule, anything more than 5 days a week will be impossible... and very likely more than 3 days a week won't be possible, either (all depending). But eventually, I would like to try out 4-5 days a week...


Mainly because I got my first internship, and it's 8 hours a day twice a week, plus 3 hours of driving, so that's 11 hours those days. And I'd likely be working full days on the weekends at my job, too...

Henk

Quote from: Greg on August 03, 2015, 11:10:40 AM
Looks like with my upcoming schedule, anything more than 5 days a week will be impossible... and very likely more than 3 days a week won't be possible, either (all depending). But eventually, I would like to try out 4-5 days a week...


Mainly because I got my first internship, and it's 8 hours a day twice a week, plus 3 hours of driving, so that's 11 hours those days. And I'd likely be working full days on the weekends at my job, too...

Useless it seems to me, to do so much fitness. Invest in becoming a good cook or something, you do yourself a pleasure with it and girls around you.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

ibanezmonster

Not sure how fitness is useless.  ;D (and don't you prefer girls that do at least some fitness?)  ::)

I wouldn't mind learning how to make food that I like and don't get to eat much (Thai and Japanese food, for example). That might be fun, especially if learning from Vegan Black Metal Chef.  >:D

Henk

Quote from: Greg on August 03, 2015, 12:40:52 PM
Not sure how fitness is useless.  ;D (and don't you prefer girls that do at least some fitness?)  ::)

I wouldn't mind learning how to make food that I like and don't get to eat much (Thai and Japanese food, for example). That might be fun, especially if learning from Vegan Black Metal Chef.  >:D

Too much fitness is useless imo, so body building.

I wouldn't say I prefer girls who do fitness. But yeah, I like it.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

ibanezmonster


Henk

One of the big flaws in current American culture is the expression "I don't care much about..." if they want to say they don't like something.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Karl Henning

I don't half fancy your complaint there.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Henk

Quote from: karlhenning on August 06, 2015, 03:27:29 AM
I don't half fancy your complaint there.

What exactly don't you understand?
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Karl Henning

Quote from: Henk on August 06, 2015, 05:50:16 AM
What exactly don't you understand?

In your post, there was nothing at all which I failed to understand  ;)

I was using a loosely equivalent British expression of indirect disapproval, simply to demonstrate that this manner of expressing indirect disapproval has an impeccable pedigree in the English-speaking world.  I mean, you still may not like it; but all one can say is, hard cheddar!  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Henk

Quote from: karlhenning on August 06, 2015, 05:53:58 AM
In your post, there was nothing at all which I failed to understand  ;)

I was using a loosely equivalent British expression of indirect disapproval, simply to demonstrate that this manner of expressing indirect disapproval has an impeccable pedigree in the English-speaking world.  I mean, you still may not like it; but all one can say is, hard cheddar!  8)

I love it, though real cheese is much better. ;)
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

ibanezmonster

Working outside in 104F/40C temperatures (with ridiculous humidity) all day and it finally cools down by having a really ridiculous lightning storm that is so bad that I spend 20 minutes really wondering if I'm going to die from a lightning strike getting to my car and also while driving it. I fucking swear.

Springs to mind two thoughts: 1. I really should work on finding a date before I die from the weather (hurricanes and bad tornado problems are long overdue), and 2. When I plan my yearly pilgrimage to Tokyo, I should go in the summer, because it's cooler than here at least.

North Star

"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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Ken B

Today I filed an FCC complaint against AT&T. I have phone service with them, and have been trying to port my number to a new carrier. They have been obstructive, and when I called them repeatedly they lied to me about the process. I ended up reading to them from the FCC web page, which is really quite clear.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Ken B on October 02, 2015, 07:27:25 AM
Today I filed an FCC complaint against AT&T. I have phone service with them, and have been trying to port my number to a new carrier. They have been obstructive, and when I called them repeatedly they lied to me about the process. I ended up reading to them from the FCC web page, which is really quite clear.

Good luck!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

ibanezmonster

Just a reminder: don't take oxycodone, even a small dosage, and drive. Especially on only 6 hours of sleep. Almost a miracle I didn't fall asleep even when over 70 mph on the highway. Wish I would have known about this before...

Ken B

Quote from: Greg on October 08, 2015, 10:56:35 AM
Just a reminder: don't take oxycodone, even a small dosage, and drive. Especially on only 6 hours of sleep. Almost a miracle I didn't fall asleep even when over 70 mph on the highway. Wish I would have known about this before...

Ook.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Ken B on October 08, 2015, 01:01:14 PM
Ook.
Thought it could have been the Ibuprofen at first, but if it were, I'd be asleep right now.  Process of elimination. :P