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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #520 on: September 18, 2020, 11:04:20 PM »
I own the Lande/St Petersburg one on Naxos. If you've heard both, how would you compare them? (also, though I don't mean to derail the thread, that CD interests me doubly because as well as loving Weinberg, Szymanowski's 3rd is one of my favourites - what did you think of Fedoseyev's version?)
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I preferred the Fedoseyev version to the Naxos, although as Scion7 suggests, there is nothing wrong with that version either. Best of all is Kondrashin, but I'm not sure how available that is. I'm also an admirer of Symanowski's 3rd Symphony 'The Song of the Night' and enjoyed this new recording. I like the version on Chandos as well (Polyansky I think).
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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #521 on: September 19, 2020, 03:08:34 AM »
The problem for me with "newer" Naxos CDs is they hardly ever go cheap in the second hand market. Early Naxos discs are often dirty cheap used, but the Naxos discs released after 2005 or so rarely go under say £3 used. For me the whole point of Naxos has been low price and Naxos has developped into a "mid-price" label rather than a budget label. That's why I go to full price labels instead to get superb stuff, but I also have to buy much less to keep the expensies reasonable.

For example the best deal for Symphony 6 I can see is £6.08+ £1.79 Delivery = £7.87 = 8,75 €! That's for a USED CD! In the past I walked into a store called "Anttila" in Helsinki and they had "buy 4, pay 3" Naxos campaign so I got 4 CDs for 3*8 € = 24 € = 6 € (£5.5) per disc for NEW CDs in plastic wrappings! So, I can get old Naxos cheap, but Naxos DIDN'T release Weinberg in the past! All of it is relatively new and "expensive." Other Weinberg releases are some old stuff on obcure labels, much of it OOP and the prices reflect that! CPO doesn't do symphonies because they coordinate with Naxos. So, exploring Weinberg's symphonies has been a pain in the ass! So frustrating! If Weinberg was as "famous" as Shostakovich (and he should be imo!)  there would be many boxes of all symphonies at affordable prices (all symphonies for 79 euros for example).

So, instead of Weinberg's symphonies I might buy a MIRARE label release of German baroque because they do it JUST RIGHT for my taste and it is heavenly! Pricy, but heavenly!
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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #522 on: September 19, 2020, 06:07:24 AM »
take a drive into the Russian Federation - maybe you can find them priced more to your budget?
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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #523 on: September 20, 2020, 01:48:49 AM »
The problem for me with "newer" Naxos CDs is they hardly ever go cheap in the second hand market. Early Naxos discs are often dirty cheap used, but the Naxos discs released after 2005 or so rarely go under say £3 used. For me the whole point of Naxos has been low price and Naxos has developped into a "mid-price" label rather than a budget label. That's why I go to full price labels instead to get superb stuff, but I also have to buy much less to keep the expensies reasonable.

For example the best deal for Symphony 6 I can see is £6.08+ £1.79 Delivery = £7.87 = 8,75 €! That's for a USED CD! In the past I walked into a store called "Anttila" in Helsinki and they had "buy 4, pay 3" Naxos campaign so I got 4 CDs for 3*8 € = 24 € = 6 € (£5.5) per disc for NEW CDs in plastic wrappings! So, I can get old Naxos cheap, but Naxos DIDN'T release Weinberg in the past! All of it is relatively new and "expensive." Other Weinberg releases are some old stuff on obcure labels, much of it OOP and the prices reflect that! CPO doesn't do symphonies because they coordinate with Naxos. So, exploring Weinberg's symphonies has been a pain in the ass! So frustrating! If Weinberg was as "famous" as Shostakovich (and he should be imo!)  there would be many boxes of all symphonies at affordable prices (all symphonies for 79 euros for example).

So, instead of Weinberg's symphonies I might buy a MIRARE label release of German baroque because they do it JUST RIGHT for my taste and it is heavenly! Pricy, but heavenly!

I agree—Naxos post-2008 or so is too rich for my blood. They'll be $12-15 new, and not much less than that used, maybe $11 apiece. Cheaper to go with another label at that point. Though it might be said that Naxos did step up their quality game in recent decades compared to their original run (which did have some gems).

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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #525 on: October 10, 2020, 06:00:25 PM »
That disc was released in March 2020, but Amazon doesn't list it.  Available via Presto, though.
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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #526 on: October 10, 2020, 06:06:49 PM »


How am I supposed to resist that? <shakes fist>

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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #527 on: October 10, 2020, 09:15:52 PM »
pull yourself together! you're not some robot, man! willpower!!!!   :P
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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #528 on: February 07, 2021, 04:06:38 PM »

A study of the quartets:

https://www.academia.edu/28121947/The_String_Quartets_of_Mieczysław_Weinberg_A_Critical_Study?email_work_card=abstract-read-more

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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #529 on: February 07, 2021, 04:45:04 PM »
A study of the quartets:

https://www.academia.edu/28121947/The_String_Quartets_of_Mieczysław_Weinberg_A_Critical_Study?email_work_card=abstract-read-more

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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #530 on: February 07, 2021, 05:57:27 PM »
A study of the quartets:

https://www.academia.edu/28121947/The_String_Quartets_of_Mieczysław_Weinberg_A_Critical_Study?email_work_card=abstract-read-more

Interesting.  Weinberg's quartets are the works I am interested in the most.  I will take a look, although I generally don't enjoy analyses of music.

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Re: Mieczysław Weinberg (1919-1996)
« Reply #531 on: February 07, 2021, 06:19:09 PM »
Interesting.  Weinberg's quartets are the works I am interested in the most.  I will take a look, although I generally don't enjoy analyses of music.

The quartets are all excellent.
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