English Art Song

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Lethevich

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Can anyone recommend any good recordings of songs by the 19th century generation of British composers (Stanford, Parry, etc)? From what I've heard, their songs were a lot more interesting than much of the rest of their music.
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mn dave

Quote from: Apollo on July 10, 2008, 07:53:53 AM
Thanks, Annie. Is that out of print?

I just ordered this. Anyone heard it?



So, no one has heard this? Am I supposed to avoid the King's Singers?

bhodges

Quote from: Lethe on July 14, 2008, 05:23:06 AM
Can anyone recommend any good recordings of songs by the 19th century generation of British composers (Stanford, Parry, etc)? From what I've heard, their songs were a lot more interesting than much of the rest of their music.

Hyperion is chock-full of recordings by Parry, Stanford and others, and although I've heard only a fraction of them the ones I have heard are excellent.  Christopher Maltman has a beautiful CD, English Orchestral Songs, with those two composers plus Gurney and Finzi.  And if you like choral music, the one below by the Trinity College Choir with Parry's Songs of Farewell is lovely, very atmospheric and warmly sung.

Quote from: Apollo on July 14, 2008, 07:00:30 AM
So, no one has heard this? Am I supposed to avoid the King's Singers?

Oh no, they're very good.  I haven't heard this particular recording...

--Bruce

Lethevich

Quote from: bhodges on July 14, 2008, 07:26:04 AM
Hyperion is chock-full of recordings by Parry, Stanford and others, and although I've heard only a fraction of them the ones I have heard are excellent.  Christopher Maltman has a beautiful CD, English Orchestral Songs, with those two composers plus Gurney and Finzi.  And if you like choral music, the one below by the Trinity College Choir with Parry's Songs of Farewell is lovely, very atmospheric and warmly sung.

That is actually the exact disc which sparked my interest :o I will look into the Hyperion catalogue, thank you :)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

bhodges

You mean the Christopher Maltman?  If so, by all means, don't hesitate!   :D  If you like his voice, he has recorded a number of other things on Hyperion with just piano accompaniment.

--Bruce

mn dave

Quote from: Apollo on July 10, 2008, 07:53:53 AM
Thanks, Annie. Is that out of print?

I just ordered this. Anyone heard it?



I received this in the mail yesterday. While these aren't exactly art songs, it's good to have them all in my possession. And such a nice selection too.

Kullervo

Lately I've been really enjoying Vaughan Williams's On Wenlock Edge (Bostridge/Haitink/London Phil). In the past I've often reacted favorably to orchestral songs/lieder in French, German and other languages, but always feel that the language barrier keeps me from enjoying it as much as I could.

Does anyone have any recommendations for art songs/orchestral songs in English, or even English translations of songs written in other languages?

Drasko

Britten - Serenade for tenor, horn & strings op.31
          - Nocturne for tenor, seven obbligato instruments & strings op.60

And I myself would like a recommendation for George Butterworth's songs

Kuhlau

#28
I'll join Drasko in requesting a recommendation for the songs of Butterworth.

I recently heard the deeply affecting, 'Is my team ploughing?' from this composer's 'A Shropshire Lad' song cycle, and it made me feel very emotional and a little overwhelmed. Jonathan Lemalu was singing - a man whose voice I'd previously never heard but which I liked very much.

Quote from: Corey on October 05, 2008, 03:58:38 PM
Lately I've been really enjoying Vaughan Williams's On Wenlock Edge

Can I recommend this recording as an excellent alternative?



Both singer and instrumentalists are very moving indeed.

You might also want to try some of Beethoven's settings of songs from the British Isles. And almost anything by Finzi, too - that man was a natural when it came to word setting.

FK

knight66

You will find discussion of the topic here, though more discussions would be very welcome.

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,8439.msg207144/topicseen.html#msg207144

Mike
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Kullervo

Quote from: knight on October 05, 2008, 10:59:44 PM
You will find discussion of the topic here, though more discussions would be very welcome.

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,8439.msg207144/topicseen.html#msg207144

Mike

Oh, sorry. I tried searching but didn't see that one.

knight66

No problem at all. I could bore for England on the subject, but would be more interested in finding out what others enjoy, or don't.

Mike
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I wasted time: and time wasted me.

karlhenning

Not quite the topic, but:

QuoteAndrew Lloyd Webber makes theatre history by premiering new Phantom musical across three continents

knight66

#33
I have not heard about this. I had assumed when I saw his name that this would be mention of him agreeing to write the coming year's UK entry to the Eurovision Song Competition.

I wonder why a new Phantom musical when he has already written one. Is it a rehash I wonder? He is commercially very clever, so perhaps it is a way of being paid all over again for the same product in different clothes.

Mike
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I wasted time: and time wasted me.

The new erato

The Quilter disc in Naxos series of English songs (I think it is vol 5 IIRC) is very fine.

knight66

Care to tell us more? For instance, who is on it, which are the best songs/performances?

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

The new erato

I think it is one of their Collins reissues with a sterling roster of artists

Lisa Milne (soprano)
Anthony Rolfe Johnson (tenor)
Louisa Fuller (violin)
Ivan McCready (cello)
Graham Johnson (piano)
The Duke Quartet

To comment on individual songs I would have to break out the disc again - but it was my introduction to Quilter and I was very pleasantly surprised with it, and have played it repeatedly over the years, always beeing struck by the quality of the settings.




knight66

Thanks, I see, a variety of singers as against a recital and some chamber music accompaniment. I will look out for it. I don't have more than a handful of his songs, all of them the famous ones.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Tsaraslondon

Quote from: knight on December 30, 2008, 12:00:36 AM

I wonder why a new Phantom musical when he has already written one. Is it a rehash I wonder? He is commercially very clever, so perhaps it is a way of being paid all over again for the same product in different clothes.

Mike

According to the news item I read, this is a sequel to Phantom of the Opera, the Phantom having relocated to Cony Island, where, surprise surprise, Christine is now living. It is set 10 years after the close of the previous musical.

\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

karlhenning