Gavriil Popov 1904-1972

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Irons

Quote from: vandermolen on July 05, 2023, 02:41:12 PMI especially like No.6 'Festive' Kyle. Like Nielsen's 6th it tries to be 'upbeat' but is actually tragic - it shows the influence of Boris Godunov in one place.

I have managed to locate a copy of Popov's 6th (Olympia) at a sensible cost which duly ordered. Listened to opening on YT which sounds very promising.
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vandermolen

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Quote from: Irons on July 06, 2023, 12:05:21 AMI have managed to locate a copy of Popov's 6th (Olympia) at a sensible cost which duly ordered. Listened to opening on YT which sounds very promising.
Pleased to hear this Lol - I find the work rather moving, especially in view of Popov's problematical musical life. Sadly, the booklet notes tell us that he 'drank himself to death'. He was a fine composer. I've tried to get Alto to reissue the old Olympias but no luck so far.
Anyway, here he is - Gavriil Popov
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kyjo

Seriously, I'm the only person here who likes the 5th Symphony?! I expected more from you guys. ;D Hopefully Cesar comes to back me up soon. ;) How could anyone not be entranced by its uniquely magical opening, which somehow manages to be simultaneously delicate yet "steely"?

https://youtu.be/mP4HQ1rkLKU
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Irons

Quote from: vandermolen on July 06, 2023, 12:35:27 AMPleased to hear this Lol - I find the work rather moving, especially in view of Popov's problematical musical life. Sadly, the booklet notes tell us that he 'drank himself to death'. He was a fine composer. I've tried to get Alto to reissue the old Olympias but no luck so far.
Anyway, here he is - Gavriil Popov


I think more pressure on Alto is required, Jeffrey. Two CDs dropped through my letterbox this week, the 3rd Symphony of Boughton and Popov's 6th. Beside the fact they were both written by communists, one by choice the other for necessity, they could not be more different. Boughton's symphony is embedded by tradition while Popov creates his own highly original sound-world. Try as I might I couldn't pigeonhole Popov, opens a bit like Mahler/Janacek, then later I thought of Copland with a good helping of DSCH sardonic wit, but gave up as he is his own man.

Outstanding sonics. Modern digital recording is highly detailed but sometimes I find anaemic. This is everything but being dynamic, upfront and powerful. Typical of analogue at it's best which it is (ADD).

I noticed informative liner notes by the late Per Skans who co-wrote with GMG resident Miaskovsky specialist ;) that composer's notes for Symphony set.       
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

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Quote from: Irons on July 08, 2023, 12:06:41 AMI think more pressure on Alto is required, Jeffrey. Two CDs dropped through my letterbox this week, the 3rd Symphony of Boughton and Popov's 6th. Beside the fact they were both written by communists, one by choice the other for necessity, they could not be more different. Boughton's symphony is embedded by tradition while Popov creates his own highly original sound-world. Try as I might I couldn't pigeonhole Popov, opens a bit like Mahler/Janacek, then later I thought of Copland with a good helping of DSCH sardonic wit, but gave up as he is his own man.

Outstanding sonics. Modern digital recording is highly detailed but sometimes I find anaemic. This is everything but being dynamic, upfront and powerful. Typical of analogue at it's best which it is (ADD).

I noticed informative liner notes by the late Per Skans who co-wrote with GMG resident Miaskovsky specialist ;) that composer's notes for Symphony set.       
I don't think that I have that much influence with Alto, Lol, although I did suggest their Novak and Barry Wordsworth 'Job' recordings as well as the Walton Symphony No.1 'terrified sheep with approaching thunderstorm' - (which I regard as a metaphor for my life  ;D ) cover painting which I came across in an art gallery in Bournemouth.
Per Skans wrote fabulous booklet notes. I was just communicating with him by email before he sadly died following an operation. I had been buying all those Olympias (Francis Wilson of Olympia kindly sent me the first of the new series - subsequently taken over by Alto, as a freebie featuring symphonies 1 and 25 which was v kind of him). I'd always liked the idea of having a go at writing booklet notes so I wrote to Alto about it. They told me that they had someone lined up to write them so I thought that that was the end of that. However, shortly afterwards the boss at Alto emailed me to see if I was still interested. I've now written 28 of them (Herrmann/Copland releases due out in the Autumn I think and also a Jerome Moross CD which I need to get on with). Nobody could compete with Per Skans but I did my best with those 6 Alto Miaskovsky (they call him Myaskovsky) releases, getting in contact with NYM's great niece in the USA, who kindly provided me with extracts from his diaries etc and using my Russian pupils at school as slave labour to do the translation from Russia for me. I gave them both a free copy of the Miaskovsky CD with an acknowledgment to them - it's just what every teenage Russian girl wants - I'm sure you'll agree.  8)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: kyjo on July 07, 2023, 06:32:57 AMSeriously, I'm the only person here who likes the 5th Symphony?! I expected more from you guys. ;D Hopefully Cesar comes to back me up soon. ;) How could anyone not be entranced by its uniquely magical opening, which somehow manages to be simultaneously delicate yet "steely"?

https://youtu.be/mP4HQ1rkLKU

The Fifth Symphony does appeal to me very much indeed. In fact, I had posted about it previously on my first account:

Quote from: SymphonicAddict on March 07, 2019, 11:07:38 AMI've been revisiting the recorded symphonies (I really miss a recording of the 4th!), and I'm pretty impressed (again) by them. Popov was noticeably creative and gifted of an unquestionable musical talent. At least I haven't heard any weak symphony by him. Now I'm finishing listening to the 5th Pastoral. It's just brilliant, and as its title says, it has a pastoral mood, blended with some late-romantic passages of important beauty and heroic moments. Something to notice too is the fine orchestration that conveys the colourful canvas in all its splendour. It's easily a masterpiece imho.
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Irons

Quote from: vandermolen on July 08, 2023, 12:41:24 AMI don't think that I have that much influence with Alto, Lol, although I did suggest their Novak and Barry Wordsworth 'Job' recordings as well as the Walton Symphony No.1 'terrified sheep with approaching thunderstorm' - (which I regard as a metaphor for my life  ;D ) cover painting which I came across in an art gallery in Bournemouth.
Per Skans wrote fabulous booklet notes. I was just communicating with him by email before he sadly died following an operation. I had been buying all those Olympias (Francis Wilson of Olympia kindly sent me the first of the new series - subsequently taken over by Alto, as a freebie featuring symphonies 1 and 25 which was v kind of him). I'd always liked the idea of having a go at writing booklet notes so I wrote to Alto about it. They told me that they had someone lined up to write them so I thought that that was the end of that. However, shortly afterwards the boss at Alto emailed me to see if I was still interested. I've now written 28 of them (Herrmann/Copland releases due out in the Autumn I think and also a Jerome Moross CD which I need to get on with). Nobody could compete with Per Skans but I did my best with those 6 Alto Miaskovsky (they call him Myaskovsky) releases, getting in contact with NYM's great niece in the USA, who kindly provided me with extracts from his diaries etc and using my Russian pupils at school as slave labour to do the translation from Russia for me. I gave them both a free copy of the Miaskovsky CD with an acknowledgment to them - it's just what every teenage Russian girl wants - I'm sure you'll agree.  8)

How interesting. I am sorry Jeffrey, but saying on one hand you have little influence and then the author of so many sets of notes sounds like a contradiction.

Not that many, but a few Olympia CDs on my shelves. Don't know if source or transfer but love the sound that company produced.   
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.