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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1520 on: January 10, 2021, 01:21:06 PM »


The Carter I’ve been exploring is In Sleep, In Thunder on the above CD. It’s a piece which seems to grow on me, gets more interesting each time I go back to it.
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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1521 on: January 10, 2021, 01:59:36 PM »


The Carter I’ve been exploring is In Sleep, In Thunder on the above CD. It’s a piece which seems to grow on me, gets more interesting each time I go back to it.

I've got that disc, though I mainly listen to the Triple Duo on it. I posted my discontent with Carter's vocal works a couple pages back. Maybe I should give them a try again.
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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1522 on: February 18, 2021, 08:45:34 AM »
Carter's Three Occasions for Orchestra is one of the greatest things I've heard. Wow. (Conducted by Oliver Knussen)

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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1523 on: February 18, 2021, 09:00:48 AM »
Carter's Three Occasions for Orchestra is one of the greatest things I've heard. Wow. (Conducted by Oliver Knussen)
Indeed! I must revisit those (I also have the Knussen recording). I had the privilege of seeing the Three Occasions live here in Madrid in 1997, with the London Symphony conducted by none other than Pierre Boulez. The following evening, the same forces perfomed Carter's Symphony of Three Orchestras:)
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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1524 on: February 18, 2021, 09:34:13 AM »
Indeed! I must revisit those (I also have the Knussen recording). I had the privilege of seeing the Three Occasions live here in Madrid in 1997, with the London Symphony conducted by none other that Pierre Boulez. The following evening, the same forces perfomed Carter's Symphony of Three Orchetsras:)

WOW I would have been in heaven to hear Boulez conduct those live!!

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« Reply #1525 on: February 18, 2021, 12:50:33 PM »
Indeed! I must revisit those (I also have the Knussen recording). I had the privilege of seeing the Three Occasions live here in Madrid in 1997, with the London Symphony conducted by none other that Pierre Boulez. The following evening, the same forces perfomed Carter's Symphony of Three Orchetsras:)

The Symphony of Three Orchestras is one of my favourite Carter pieces, would love to see it live. Though I did see Knussen conducting the Symphonia at the Bridgewater Hall.

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« Reply #1526 on: February 18, 2021, 01:22:57 PM »
The Symphony of Three Orchestras is one of my favourite Carter pieces, would love to see it live. Though I did see Knussen conducting the Symphonia at the Bridgewater Hall.
Knussen doing the Symphonia must have been quite something! I saw it here in Madrid (the Spanish National Orchestra conducted by Diego Masson).

Cross-posted from the WAYLTN thread:

Oliver Knussen conducts the London Sinfonietta in Elliott Carter’s Three Occasions for Orchestra.


Great stuff! (hat tip to Leo K.)...

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And now revisiting the first work by Carter I ever listened to, the wonderful Oboe Concerto (Holliger / Boulez / EIC).


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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1527 on: February 18, 2021, 08:03:39 PM »
Sounds like I’m going to have to listen to Carter’s Three Occasions for Orchestra! Thanks for the heads-up, Leo! And Rafael, that sounded like an amazing concert.
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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1528 on: February 19, 2021, 09:40:47 AM »
Sounds like I’m going to have to listen to Carter’s Three Occasions for Orchestra! Thanks for the heads-up, Leo! And Rafael, that sounded like an amazing concert.

I hope you enjoy - I also enjoyed his 5th String Quartet yesterday, but there is always something special with Carter's orchestral writing, it dazzles!

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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1529 on: February 19, 2021, 08:20:45 PM »
I hope you enjoy - I also enjoyed his 5th String Quartet yesterday, but there is always something special with Carter's orchestral writing, it dazzles!

Thanks, Leo. I did enjoy it for sure. I posted in the ‘Listening’ thread that it sounded like what if Berg had lived well into the post-war era. Another Carter work that impresses me to no end is his Piano Sonata. Such a marvelous work. I need to let his SQs sink in some more --- they’re quite complex.
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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1530 on: February 19, 2021, 10:19:28 PM »


The Carter I’ve been exploring is In Sleep, In Thunder on the above CD. It’s a piece which seems to grow on me, gets more interesting each time I go back to it.
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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1531 on: February 20, 2021, 02:23:07 AM »
I have also been on a Carter binge recently, including the Fourth String Quartet which I had never managed to crack before.

Around the 100th birthday celebration, anti-atonal ideologues claimed that people were only interested in Carter because of his longevity, and interest in his music would swiftly fade after his death. I'm happy to see from the replies here that this isn't quite the case.

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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1532 on: February 20, 2021, 11:58:30 AM »
I love seeing people like that be proved wrong. Idiots.

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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1533 on: February 24, 2021, 06:25:26 AM »
I'm listening to his 1st String Quartet this morning it is such a refreshing work and it does sound revelatory in it's conception as it progresses with this feeling of changing meter or the ebb and flow of the meter.

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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1534 on: February 24, 2021, 04:18:37 PM »
Carter's Three Occasions for Orchestra is one of the greatest things I've heard. Wow. (Conducted by Oliver Knussen)

The other day I heard this work, and I must say I did enjoy it. It's rather different from the music I usually listen to. Music to stimulate your brain, and that's precisely been my experience with this composer.
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Re: The Carter Corner
« Reply #1535 on: February 24, 2021, 04:37:52 PM »
Knussen doing the Symphonia must have been quite something! I saw it here in Madrid (the Spanish National Orchestra conducted by Diego Masson).

Cross-posted from the WAYLTN thread:

But the work on that CD really to hear is the Concerto for Orchestra. I consider that one to be Carter at his greatest, along with the first three quartets. Knussen does a beautiful, well-recorded performance. It was premiered by the NY Phil under Bernstein, whose recording I have been told is insecure and full of inaccuracies. But it has plenty of sweep and power. I've heard it live only once, under Leon Botstein at Carnegie Hall, in a somewhat underpowered and disappointing rendition.
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