Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon

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Quote from: Sergeant Rock on February 16, 2012, 02:16:27 AM
I may have to check those out. Kuchar really impresses me. I  think his set of Shostakovich Jazz and Ballet Suites is even better than Chailly's.

Sarge

Wow, better than the Chailly? They must be good. :)

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Quote from: mc ukrneal on February 16, 2012, 02:29:09 AM
I like both Maazel and Ashkenazy (as I wrote elsewhere). Romeo and Juliet is very lucky on disc.

I'm not too fond of Maazel. I like Ozawa's BSO recording a lot. It's probably my current favorite. Both of Gergiev's aren't my cup of tea. I'm anxious to hear the Ashkenazy.

Karl Henning

Whichever of the Gergiev recordings I heard, I found it a little too annoying, a little too often.
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: karlhenning on February 16, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
Whichever of the Gergiev recordings I heard, I found it a little too annoying, a little too often.

My problem with the new Gergiev LSO Live recording is he's just a speed demon. He's waving his little hands about like some crazed monkey (no offense Greg :D). Gergiev's main problem, IMHO, is he's just got way too many obligations and he doesn't seem like he has much time to focus on the music.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on February 16, 2012, 04:39:52 AM
I am glad to know your thoughts here. Fact is, Kuchar has suffered in my view from paulb's enthusiasm ; )

Well, now that paulb is no longer with us, someone has to fill his shoes. Pettersson, Kuchar...yeah, I can handle the assignment  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Well, but, drat it, you make Kuchar sound worth listening to! You're letting down the legacy! ; )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Mirror Image on February 16, 2012, 07:43:47 AM
Wow, better than the Chailly? They must be good. :)

I think so...of course, YMMV.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on February 16, 2012, 08:02:53 AM
Well, now that paulb is no longer with us, someone has to fill his shoes. Pettersson, Kuchar...yeah, I can handle the assignment  ;D

Sarge

In honor of paulb . . . I believe I'll go listen to some clips, now . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Mirror Image on February 16, 2012, 07:52:30 AM
My problem with the new Gergiev LSO Live recording is he's just a speed demon. He's waving his little hands about like some crazed monkey (no offense Greg :D). Gergiev's main problem, IMHO, is he's just got way too many obligations and he doesn't seem like he has much time to focus on the music.


Gergiev's performances are inconsistent, I'll agree, and he seems to prefer faster tempi, but he does add enough excitement in his interpretations to spark my interest.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on February 16, 2012, 08:04:46 AM
In honor of paulb . . . I believe I'll go listen to some clips, now . . . .

;D :D ;D ....just be sure to make up your mind within the first 5 seconds  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

madaboutmahler

So, has no one heard the Solti selections cd? I am certainly very interested in it....
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: madaboutmahler on February 16, 2012, 08:47:27 AM
So, has no one heard the Solti selections cd? I am certainly very interested in it....

If we are still referring to R&J selections, I have not.
But I do enjoy Dutoit's (a rare Dutoit recommendation) and MTT's R&J selections recordings.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on February 16, 2012, 08:50:56 AM
If we are still referring to R&J selections, I have not.
But I do enjoy Dutoit's (a rare Dutoit recommendation) and MTT's R&J selections recordings.

Thank you for the feedback, Greg. Instantly interested in both the Dutoit and MTT now! :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

madaboutmahler

Looking at the MTT now... looks great, but hold on... does it not have 'Juliet's Death'? My favourite part!
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: madaboutmahler on February 16, 2012, 08:57:21 AM
Looking at the MTT now... looks great, but hold on... does it not have 'Juliet's Death'? My favourite part!


With the SFS it does, last track, "mort de Juliette".

madaboutmahler

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on February 16, 2012, 09:12:19 AM

With the SFS it does, last track, "mort de Juliette".

Thank goodness.... Thank you Greg. :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: madaboutmahler on February 16, 2012, 09:30:08 AM
Thank goodness.... Thank you Greg. :)


You're welcome. I don't think you could get away with leaving that track out, whether complete or selections, it brings it all to such a satisfying conclusion.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on February 16, 2012, 09:32:28 AM

You're welcome. I don't think you could get away with leaving that track out, whether complete or selections, it brings it all to such a satisfying conclusion.

Yes... and to me, 'Juliet's Death' is some of the most beautiful music ever written. So subtle and heavenly! When the C Major sounds through the orchestra with Juliet's theme soaring through, I always start to weep.... so so so beautiful!  0:)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

Quite attractive thread....

I've always found Prokofiev's works absolutely stunning since I heard Lieutenant Kijé's Troika in Woody Allen's Love and Death.
Prokofiev's music is incredibly passionate, expressive and thrilling, and moreover definitely involving; it shows a tonality taken to extremes and often sudden, powerful modulations which don't change the sound brilliance though, on the contrary creating gorgeous and overwhelming movements of beautiful tones. I absolutely love it! ;D
Some of my favourite Prokofiev's pieces are symphonies No.4, No.7 and No.7, the Piano Concertos, Scythian Suite, Lieutenant Kijé Suite, the Violin Concertos and Romeo & Juliet (this last one is also one of my favourite pieces of all time).
"Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire." - Gustav Mahler

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on February 16, 2012, 12:25:20 PM
Romeo & Juliet (this last one is also one of my favourite pieces of all time).

One of mine too, as you know Ilaria! :)
Wonderful description.
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven