Yikes! Yoshimatsu!

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Guido

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 08, 2011, 08:03:03 AM
Right now, Yoshimatsu's music just bores the living hell out of me. One of the reasons could be that I don't find his harmonic language all that interesting. There isn't much tension in the music.

Oh well, I can't like everything...

Wow, your dispositions are flitting and capricious!
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

Mirror Image

Quote from: Guido on October 09, 2011, 01:39:24 AM
Wow, your dispositions are flitting and capricious!

Well as I explained to another member, it could very well be the mood I was in when I was listening to his music. I really liked the first movement of his Piano Concerto "Memo Mora" but I just found the rest of the work uninteresting.

springrite

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 09, 2011, 07:41:15 AM
Well as I explained to another member, it could very well be the mood I was in when I was listening to his music.

Some mood swings can be very expensive!

Next time when you get interested in a new discovery, don't buy so much so fast. Take a little time. They are not selling like hotcakes, I assure you. They will still be there next month.

Not every discovery is a Koechlin.  ;)
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Mirror Image

Quote from: springrite on October 09, 2011, 07:47:05 AM
Some mood swings can be very expensive!

Next time when you get interested in a new discovery, don't buy so much so fast. Take a little time. They are not selling like hotcakes, I assure you. They will still be there next month.

Not every discovery is a Koechlin.  ;)

Yes, that's so true, Paul. I need to take more time with what I have before moving onto to something completely new. No, not every discovery can be a Koechlin. :) Good point.

The new erato

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 09, 2011, 08:08:31 AM
Yes, that's so true, Paul. I need to take more time with what I have before moving onto to something completely new. No, not every discovery can be a Koechlin. :) Good point.
I promise never to mention an unknown composer in your presence again. :P

BTW Currently playing Hilding Rosenberg's Orpheus on the Town. Marvelous ballet music from 1938!

Mirror Image

Quote from: The new erato on October 09, 2011, 08:11:54 AM
I promise never to mention an unknown composer in your presence again. :P

BTW Currently playing Hilding Rosenberg's Orpheus on the Town. Marvelous ballet music from 1938!

I've heard of Rosenberg, so he's not unknown to me. ;)

vandermolen

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 06, 2011, 06:22:13 PM
What do you think about his other symphonies, Jeffrey?

All very listenable - as far as I can recall John - I enjoyed the Symphony No 3 with the Saxophone Concerto, in particular - but it is 1 and 2 which really stand out for me.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mirror Image

Quote from: vandermolen on October 09, 2011, 02:57:02 PM
All very listenable - as far as I can recall John - I enjoyed the Symphony No 3 with the Saxophone Concerto, in particular - but it is 1 and 2 which really stand out for me.

Yes, the Symphony No. 2 was good indeed. That slow movement was beautiful.

vandermolen

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 09, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
Yes, the Symphony No. 2 was good indeed. That slow movement was beautiful.

Been listening to Symphony No. 3 recently. The last movement is very 'catchy' and would be great in live concert, not that I am ever likely to hear it live. His music reminds me a bit of Mike Oldfield. It can be a bit kitschy at times but, on the whole, I derive a lot of pleasure from it.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mirror Image

Quote from: vandermolen on April 10, 2015, 12:40:39 PM
Been listening to Symphony No. 3 recently. The last movement is very 'catchy' and would be great in live concert, not that I am ever likely to hear it live. His music reminds me a bit of Mike Oldfield. It can be a bit kitschy at times but, on the whole, I derive a lot of pleasure from it.

I haven't listened to any Yoshimatsu in awhile, but I don't think I would have as favorable of an impression now of his music as I did four years ago. Things certainly change!

vandermolen

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 10, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
I haven't listened to any Yoshimatsu in awhile, but I don't think I would have as favorable of an impression now of his music as I did four years ago. Things certainly change!
I remember John that you were initially enthusiastic about the music and then not so enthusiastic  8)
It has a kind of instant appeal which can wear off I guess - but I still enjoy those first three symphonies and some of the quieter and more poetic scores.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Green Destiny

I cant get enough of the Symphony No. 1 (Kamui-Chikap Symphony).
I too find Yoshimatsu a bit tacky and new-agey but I cant help but love his music :D.
I collected all the Chandos recordings a couple of years back - I haven't really gotten into his other symphonies yet so I need to give him some attention in future.

vandermolen

Quote from: Conor71 on April 10, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
I cant get enough of the Symphony No. 1 (Kamui-Chikap Symphony).
I too find Yoshimatsu a bit tacky and new-agey but I cant help but love his music :D.
I collected all the Chandos recordings a couple of years back - I haven't really gotten into his other symphonies yet so I need to give him some attention in future.
I totally agree with you! I also like the Kamui-Chikap Symphony. Perhaps my personal favourite is Symphony 2, especially the beautiful slow movement. I'd be interested to hear your views on it. The last movement of No. 3 is great fun and would go down very well at the Proms, although this is wishful thinking!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Green Destiny

Quote from: vandermolen on April 10, 2015, 10:28:50 PM
I totally agree with you! I also like the Kamui-Chikap Symphony. Perhaps my personal favourite is Symphony 2, especially the beautiful slow movement. I'd be interested to hear your views on it. The last movement of No. 3 is great fun and would go down very well at the Proms, although this is wishful thinking!

Cool stuff Vandermolen - I will try and listen to Symphony No. 2 soon and report back. You are making me want to listen to Symphony No. 3 as well! :)

vandermolen

Quote from: Conor71 on April 10, 2015, 10:56:54 PM
Cool stuff Vandermolen - I will try and listen to Symphony No. 2 soon and report back. You are making me want to listen to Symphony No. 3 as well! :)

Oh yes, you must listen to both  8)

You won't get the last movement of No.3 out of your head for a while - it is great fun.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

SymphonicAddict

Almost four years from the last post! Am enjoying at the moment the Symphony No. 2 and the Cello concerto. Both works portray singular beauty, cosmic and old figurations, without a lack of some good qualities: thought-provoking, fresh, modern, exotic, good assignated to the instruments. The coolest is the engaging orchestration, it knows how to catch you with its lovely melodies, marimba-vibraphone effects, minimalistic flavour (if you are receptive, of course).

vandermolen

Quote from: SymphonicAddict on February 19, 2019, 01:43:24 PM
Almost four years from the last post! Am enjoying at the moment the Symphony No. 2 and the Cello concerto. Both works portray singular beauty, cosmic and old figurations, without a lack of some good qualities: thought-provoking, fresh, modern, exotic, good assignated to the instruments. The coolest is the engaging orchestration, it knows how to catch you with its lovely melodies, marimba-vibraphone effects, minimalistic flavour (if you are receptive, of course).
A nice analysis Cesar. Do you know Symphony 1 and 3 which I also enjoy?
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

SymphonicAddict

Quote from: vandermolen on February 20, 2019, 05:07:44 AM
A nice analysis Cesar. Do you know Symphony 1 and 3 which I also enjoy?

Thanks, Jeffrey. That day I was a bit "eloquent"  :D

Yes, I have the majority of his recordings, including those symphonies, and I have very good memories of them. He's a very cool composer, I really enjoy his style, sometimes carefree, sometimes solemn. He's one of my favorite living composers.

vandermolen

Quote from: SymphonicAddict on February 21, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
Thanks, Jeffrey. That day I was a bit "eloquent"  :D

Yes, I have the majority of his recordings, including those symphonies, and I have very good memories of them. He's a very cool composer, I really enjoy his style, sometimes carefree, sometimes solemn. He's one of my favorite living composers.

Mine too Cesar - thanks  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vers la flamme

I only know the Threnody to Toki, op.12, but holy shit, it's killer. Must hear more from this composer ASAP.

Any recommendations?