Lessons of GMG

Started by Renfield, July 29, 2008, 06:14:32 AM

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Renfield

Valuable lessons on life from the GMG Classical Music Forum:


1. Classical music is for everyone.


2. Except bigots.


3. Or maybe especially them.


4. If composer or performance practice: old is good, new is better; older is best.

5. If conductor or soloist: new is bad, old is better; older is still best.


6. Each person is entitled to their opinion.

7. Unless they are wrong.


8. No matter their age, everyone has something to prove.


9. Classical music listeners are not elitist.

10. Non-specialist musical discussions are largely useless.


11. Classical music listeners also excel in philosophy, theology, sociology and psychology by default.

13. Non-specialist discussions on the above are far preferable to the lies specialist discussions give birth to.


14. Richard Wagner's music is boring and shallow, due to its dependence on long-winded text.

15. Richard Wagner's music is exciting and profound, especially due to its dependence on long-winded text.


16. Consistency is optional.

17. As are manners.

18. But mannerisms are not.

19. Nor is etiquette.


20. Classical music is for those who can understand it.













(Firmly tongue-in-cheek.)

Philoctetes

Your non-mentioning of Jews can be seen as anti-semitic.

Renfield

Quote from: Philoctetes on July 29, 2008, 07:49:30 AM
Your non-mentioning of Jews can be seen as anti semitic.

I was just coming back to the thread to throw a quip about how, distasteful as it might have been, my post at least managed to avoid that subject.

;D

Philoctetes

Quote from: Renfield on July 29, 2008, 07:51:18 AM
I was just coming back to the thread to throw a quip about how, distasteful as it might have been, my post at least managed to avoid that subject. ;D

I was clearly offended by the non-mention, at least give an unmention.

Renfield

Quote from: Philoctetes on July 29, 2008, 07:52:42 AM
I was clearly offended by the non-mention, at least give an unmention.

How about a m-ntion?

Philoctetes

Quote from: Renfield on July 29, 2008, 07:55:02 AM
How about a m-ntion?

Only as long as it is underhanded and shifty.

Renfield

#6
Coming from the "Is the composer obsolete?" thread, I feel unusually satisfied with the spot of mischief that is this list.

Philoctetes

Quote from: Renfield on July 29, 2008, 08:36:00 AM
I feel unusually satisfied with the spot of mischief that is this list.

Self-congratulations is another lesson from GMG.

karlhenning

Composers write music in such a way that a single performer or conductor can own his (the composer's) work;  thus, the composer is just a supplier;  the real artists are the executants.

Philoctetes

Quote from: karlhenning on July 29, 2008, 08:38:37 AM
Composers write music in such a way that a single performer or conductor can own his (the composer's) work;  thus, the composer is just a supplier;  the real artists are the executants.

Ultra-Post-Modernist Compositional Theory

Renfield

Quote from: Philoctetes on July 29, 2008, 08:38:21 AM
Self-congratulations is another lesson from GMG.

Absolutely.

karlhenning

Quote from: Philoctetes on July 29, 2008, 08:39:40 AM
Ultra-Post-Modernist Compositional Theory

Artfully observed.

Renfield

Quote from: Philoctetes on July 29, 2008, 08:39:40 AM
Ultra-Post-Modernist Compositional Theory

Quote from: karlhenning on July 29, 2008, 08:43:26 AM
Artfully observed.


Still, in so extreme a case as "Ultra-Post-Modernism", I'd expect the members of the audience would own the work, the composer would simply supply his opinion of it, and the performers would each have to pick their own reading (including every single musician in the orchestra).

Philoctetes

Quote from: Renfield on July 29, 2008, 08:46:52 AM

Still, in so extreme a case as "Ultra-Post-Modernism", I'd expect the members of the audience would own the work, the composer would simply supply his opinion of it, and the performers would each have to pick their own reading (including every single musician in the orchestra).

Once we pass this early phase of Ultra onto ULtra-Ultra; the composer will theoretically disappear altogether, and Cageism shall appear.

karlhenning

If I disappear, it will be only theoretically.

Philoctetes

Quote from: karlhenning on July 29, 2008, 08:50:51 AM
If I disappear, it will be only theoretically.

Having facial hair, you can only disappear slightly, in theory.

Philoctetes

It's really kind of sad what has happened to this place.

karlhenning

Quote from: GhandiBe the change you wish to see in the world.

Opus106

15?. You can never have enough CDs.
Regards,
Navneeth

marvinbrown

Quote from: Renfield on July 29, 2008, 06:14:32 AM
Valuable lessons on life from the GMG Classical Music Forum:



14. Richard Wagner's music is boring and shallow, due to its dependence on long-winded text.

15. Richard Wagner's music is exciting and profound, especially due to its dependence on long-winded text.




(Firmly tongue-in-cheek.)

  Oh would you stop teasing me now ......

  marvin