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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2007, 11:18:38 AM »


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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2007, 11:20:08 AM »
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I believe its the sound that he rejects. I remember a post ahwile back to that effect.

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2007, 11:20:54 AM »
Agreed.  Marriner and Bach are a poor match.

I need to take my own advice...bin it and get a decent recording.

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2007, 11:43:47 AM »
Although I know this fun is suposed to be fun and it would be wayward of me to strongly slam you here, Harry, but this kind of ignorance is unacceptable. Why do silly people like you go along with absurd stereotypes that you have not experienced yourself, only heard?

Toscanini did have relatively fast first movements, but little else. If we take is Brahms 1, for example, his average length is longer than that of Mouteux, Stokowski and within ten seconds or so of Cantelli, Walter and even Karajan!

Toscanini manipluated tempi much more than he did perform things overall faster. And that is obviously what you hear and then wrongly assume. He certainly wasn't the speed freak you suggest.



A slight digression here:

Michel, have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbGLDrepqLA
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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2007, 12:06:46 PM »
With Toscanini, it was often the way he articulated the music and injected energy into it that made people think he was a speed merchant. Though, he was not one to linger!

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2007, 07:36:25 PM »
Another folly of my teens (fortunately I don't blindly follow the recommendations in CD guides anymore  ;D)
Opinions will be divided on this one, but I don't like Uchida's Mozart....at all.
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Q being escorted out of Rick's for his comments concerning the above Uchida effort:

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2007, 07:43:31 PM »
To dump:

Beethoven Violin Sonatas Nos. 5 and 9 Zukerman/Barenboim EMI
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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2007, 07:52:05 PM »
Also possible dumps, these two Pinnock cds:

   

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2007, 08:08:06 PM »
Q being escorted out of Rick's for his comments concerning the above Uchida effort:




Indeed!

And that's me in the black hat awaiting orders from Rick Bill!




Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2007, 08:28:31 PM »

Indeed!

And that's me in the black hat awaiting orders from Rick Bill!

HA! ;D The "Uchida Avengers"! ;D

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2007, 08:31:29 PM »

I actually like this one. Haven't heard a better Hammerklavier...There must be something wrong with me.  ;D



Yes, I'm quite fond of this set too. I've always enjoyed his Waldstein.

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2007, 09:14:43 PM »
Also possible dumps, these two Pinnock cds:

   



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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2007, 09:21:27 PM »
Jeebus, what a bunch of trolls.

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2007, 02:18:25 AM »
Yes, I'm quite fond of this set too. I've always enjoyed his Waldstein.

Yes, I assume you've heard the live one?

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #54 on: May 14, 2007, 02:28:50 AM »
I like a lot of Pinnock recordings a GREAT deal!

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2007, 02:57:40 AM »
To give only one example:

MUSSORGSKI: Boris Godunov, by Claudio Abbado (with Kotcherga, Leiferkus). A version without life, presence (the choir in the first scene seems an exercise in the Conservatory, when compared to the Melik-Pachaev version) and with the most mediocre Boris I ever heard. And that has nothing to do with the choice of the original version or the one of Rimski.

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2007, 03:16:07 AM »
Interesting; I often find Abbado great in opera. Not heard this one.

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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2007, 03:54:37 AM »
Haven't heard a better Hammerklavier


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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2007, 03:58:45 AM »


I have this set. What's wrong with it?  ???
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Re: The one recording you think everyone should bin
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2007, 04:00:15 AM »
What's wrong with it?  ???

It's bad . . . . . . You shouldn't like it!  :D