composers I want to investigate further

Started by Henk, August 07, 2008, 06:08:41 PM

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Henk

A list of composers I want to investigate further:

before 20th century:
Bach
Palestrina
Handel
Scarlatti
Haydn
Beethoven
Schubert
Mendelssohn
Schumann
Tchaikovsky
Satie
Debussy
Bruckner
Chopin
Berlioz
Dvorak
Smetana
Arensky
Gade

Russian, poetic style:
Rimsky-Korsakov
Mussorgsky
Scriabin
Borodin
Medtner
Juon
Rachmaninov

late-romantic:
Mahler
Strauss
Vaughan Williams
Atterberg
Sibelius
Pettersson
Rautavaara
Bax
Nielsen
Rosenberg
Braga Santos
Schmidt
Weingartner
Korngold
Honegger
Bloch
Holmboe
Madetoja
Kokkonen
Rubbra
Bantock
Alwyn
Walton
Dupré
Schmidt
d'Indy
Novak
Suk
Busoni
Arnold
Holmboe

modern:
Shostakovich
Britten
Martinu
Janacek
Tippett
Freitas Branco
Langgaard
Norgard
Heininen
Gorecki
Tansman
Penderecki
Lutoslawski
Ligeti
Kurtag
de Raaff
Manoury
Messiaen
Dutilleux
Jolivet
Donatoni
Petrassi
Stravinsky
Prokofiev
Fedele
Janssen
Top
Anderson
Tabachnik
Birtwistle
Bartok
Boulez
Webern
Berg
Schoenberg
Krenek
Ruders
Gerhard
Lourie
Kabalevsky
Roslavets
Mossolov
Polovinkin
Protopopov
Schnittke
Part
Vivier
Varese
Gudmundsen-Holmgreen
Poulenc
Kabeláč
Ades
Berio
Respighi
Sciarrino
Skalkottas
Xenakis
Maderna
Dallapiccola
Bacri
Lindberg
Lemeland
Mantovani
Cerha
Kaipainen

exotic:
Sculthorpe
Villa Lobos
Takemitsu
Huang Ruo
Akutagawa
Yashiro
Ichiyanagi
Hayasaka

jazzy classical music:
Chesky
Janssen
Rantala
Kapustin

I restrict myself to this list, only keep looking for composers who are still active. Dutch and Italian composers, living and deceased, may become my specialism. The idea is that I want to restrict myself to really enjoy composers, get more familiar with them, keep things clear and don't loose track. For me these are the greatest composers. When I miss composers, composers I would really like, then it's a shame, but the reason I do this is obvious. Maybe after a while I can reflect and revise things.

bhodges

Henk, you have outlined a lifetime of study!  Your list will take hundreds of years to complete!  (In the most pleasant way.)

Without recommending anything for the moment, since you mentioned Dutch and Italian composers: are you familiar with Louis Andriessen and Salvatore Sciarrino?  The former is sort of a "father of modern minimalism" and the latter, perhaps indebted to Webern, with a penchant for very, very soft sounds.  I have had extremely interesting experiences with the music of each.  I suspect you might respond to either or both.

--Bruce

Henk

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Quote from: bhodges on August 07, 2008, 06:28:09 PM
Henk, you have outlined a lifetime of study!  Your list will take hundreds of years to complete!  (In the most pleasant way.)

I know. I'm not planning to listen to all the music they made. I'll stick to things I like. I really want to re-listen things much. I'm also planning to buy less cd's all along, because where should I leave all those cd's? Also I don't want to have cd's I like but rarely play.

Quote from: bhodges on August 07, 2008, 06:28:09 PM
Without recommending anything for the moment, since you mentioned Dutch and Italian composers: are you familiar with Louis Andriessen and Salvatore Sciarrino?  The former is sort of a "father of modern minimalism" and the latter, perhaps indebted to Webern, with a penchant for very, very soft sounds.  I have had extremely interesting experiences with the music of each.  I suspect you might respond to either or both.

I'm familiar with Andriessen, I like his piano work, though it doesn't bring one very far imo, his more minimalistic opera's I liked less. Sciarrino is a composer I want to investigate. Don't know any of his works. Which work do you recommend?

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Henk on August 07, 2008, 06:08:41 PM
A list of composers I want to investigate further:
Rosenberg

Who's that? The guy who got tried for high treason against the USA?

greg

QuoteTop
"Top?"
hehe

"What are you listening to?"
"Top."

Henk

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on August 08, 2008, 07:22:41 AM
Who's that? The guy who got tried for high treason against the USA?

Hilding Rosenberg

Henk

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Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on August 08, 2008, 07:27:55 AM
"Top?"
hehe

"What are you listening to?"
"Top."

:). Nice, to say you're listening to "Top", isn't it? Eduard Top is a dutch, very young, composer.

bhodges

Quote from: Henk on August 08, 2008, 03:59:51 AM
Sciarrino is a composer I want to investigate. Don't know any of his works. Which work do you recommend?


His Infinito Nero is fascinating: here is a review I wrote, hearing it some five years ago (hard to believe).  But the recording on Kairos is (inexplicably) almost $60. 

His opera, Lohengrin, is supposed to be wonderful but I haven't heard it yet.  I do have the Nocturnes: Complete Piano Works by Nicolas Hodges (no relation to me), and it's quite good.  Both covers are below.

--Bruce

Henk

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Quote from: bhodges on August 08, 2008, 08:15:51 AM
His Infinito Nero is fascinating: here is a review I wrote, hearing it some five years ago (hard to believe).  But the recording on Kairos is (inexplicably) almost $60. 

His opera, Lohengrin, is supposed to be wonderful but I haven't heard it yet.  I do have the Nocturnes: Complete Piano Works by Nicolas Hodges (no relation to me), and it's quite good.  Both covers are below.

--Bruce

Thanks a lot, Bruce. I'll check out the first two album you mention. Although I like the opera-experience I had, I'll not investigate on opera in this part of my life. Simply other priorities. I can't handle all things together. But I look forward to see more opera in another part of my life. Hopefully also in a live setting, but then I will have to move to Amsterdam I think, which I will probably do.

Besides I recently read that opera´s are being showed in cinemas. In some cities in NL you can see opera´s in cinemas performed in NY at the same time. Strong concept I think.

Henk

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I thought I might get (irritated) reactions because of having an apart, very liminated, category "outside europe".  ;D But no reactions at all  ???. You are all very sensible people :).

Joe Barron


M forever

Quote from: Henk on August 07, 2008, 06:08:41 PM
A list of composers I want to investigate further:

Good luck! But please remember that you also wanted to revolutionize Jazz. Have you started learning to play an instrument yet?

eyeresist

Henk, when we recommend recordings to you, how old can those recordings be? Is mono sound acceptable to you?


Henk

Quote from: M forever on August 08, 2008, 03:33:46 PM
Good luck! But please remember that you also wanted to revolutionize Jazz. Have you started learning to play an instrument yet?

That was a bit of a flush :).

Henk

Quote from: eyeresist on August 08, 2008, 08:56:50 PM
Henk, when we recommend recordings to you, how old can those recordings be? Is mono sound acceptable to you?


Yes, I don't care much about that.

vandermolen

Try Douglas Lilburn too (New Zealand). There is a v good Naxos CD with his three symphonies on.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Henk

Quote from: vandermolen on August 09, 2008, 01:42:37 AM
Try Douglas Lilburn too (New Zealand). There is a v good Naxos CD with his three symphonies on.

Interesting, I'll try. Thanks for the tip.

sound67

Quote from: Henk on August 07, 2008, 06:08:41 PM
A list of composers I want to investigate further:

before 20th century:
Bach
Palestrina
Handel

...

You list suggests that up to now you have investigated very few composers, or none at all.  8)

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

Henk

Quote from: sound67 on August 09, 2008, 07:57:02 AM
You list suggests that up to now you have investigated very few composers, or none at all.  8)

Thomas

Can you tell how it suggests it, Thomas?