What's best english? [it's for consistent file tagging]

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Lethevich

Mahler10th - After doing research into the subject a while ago, I opted to go without a space as well. Strangely Wikipedia does not...

Anyway, to continue this thread, can we have a debate on what may be the best way to present more complicated information? Let's ignore the lack of spaces after No. and Op. and consider it personal preference. The top example is how I would do it, but there are other common combinations of options below:

Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No.9 in E minor, Op.95 'From the New World'

Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No.9, in E Minor, Op.95 "From the New World" [differences: a comma before the key, upper case "Minor", double quotation marks for the title]

Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No.9 in E minor, "From the New World", Op. 95 [differences: a comma before the title, opus number in a different location]

These list most of the varieties, although obviously not in every combination as that would require a ridiculous amount of examples :D What are other peoples preferences (and if possibly - why)?
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Tapio Dmitriyevich

The second has too many commas. If I wanted one line, I'd display it like this:

Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No. 9 in E minor, Op. 95 ('From the New World')

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Lethe on August 09, 2008, 09:10:55 AM
Mahler10th - After doing research into the subject a while ago, I opted to go without a space as well. Strangely Wikipedia does not...

Anyway, to continue this thread, can we have a debate on what may be the best way to present more complicated information? Let's ignore the lack of spaces after No. and Op. and consider it personal preference. The top example is how I would do it, but there are other common combinations of options below:

Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No.9 in E minor, Op.95 'From the New World'

Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No.9, in E Minor, Op.95 "From the New World" [differences: a comma before the key, upper case "Minor", double quotation marks for the title]

Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No.9 in E minor, "From the New World", Op. 95 [differences: a comma before the title, opus number in a different location]

These list most of the varieties, although obviously not in every combination as that would require a ridiculous amount of examples :D What are other peoples preferences (and if possibly - why)?

OK, as a personal preference then"

Dvorak Op 95 Symphony #9 in e "From the New World"

I never use Major or minor, just upper and lower case. There are few enough works in bb that I don't let it influence me. :D

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karlhenning

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 09, 2008, 10:09:09 AM
OK, as a personal preference then"

Dvorak Op 95 Symphony #9 in e "From the New World"

I never use Major or minor, just upper and lower case. There are few enough works in bb that I don't let it influence me. :D

And you can simply ident the Shostakovich Thirteenth as Babi Yar  ;)

DavidRoss

Quote from: Wurstwasser on August 09, 2008, 08:35:54 AM
I disagree :) I'm the biggest enemy of Deppenleerzeichen and Deppenapostroph, a german problem which has it's cause in a) über anglicising words (a post ww2 brownnosing phenomen), b) new german orthography rules, c) confusion about this and d) carelessness.
I think you mistook my tone.  We agree completely.  And thank you for the links.  I did not know that this glaring symptom of our civilization's rapid decay was a worldwide phenomenon, nor that it had been named: Apostrophitis. 
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Mark

As a general rule on tagging classical works, I get rid of opus numbers and keys unless there's no other way to identify a work. So, for example, the first movement of Beethoven's 5th Symphony is simply tagged, 'Symphony No. 5: I' - 'Beethoven' goes in the 'Composer' field. But the first movement of the first of Haydn's Op. 71 String Quartets is tagged thus: 'String Quartet: I (Op. 71/1)' Beyond that, I need to know no more - I'm listening to the music, not studying it. ;)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Mark on August 09, 2008, 11:31:16 AM
As a general rule on tagging classical works, I get rid of opus numbers and keys unless there's no other way to identify a work. So, for example, the first movement of Beethoven's 5th Symphony is simply tagged, 'Symphony No. 5: I' - 'Beethoven' goes in the 'Composer' field. But the first movement of the first of Haydn's Op. 71 String Quartets is tagged thus: 'String Quartet: I (Op. 71/1)' Beyond that, I need to know no more - I'm listening to the music, not studying it. ;)

But since, after ripping, I name the file from the tag (I do what I can automatically), not to have Beethoven's name in there makes the filename useless for identifying the file. Also, computer file systems rely on some sort of order (numeric, then alphabetical), so files are named in order to place them in some reasonable order on the computer. How many "Track 01.mp3;Track 02.mp3" files do you want, really... :)

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Mark

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 09, 2008, 02:31:28 PM
But since, after ripping, I name the file from the tag (I do what I can automatically), not to have Beethoven's name in there makes the filename useless for identifying the file. Also, computer file systems rely on some sort of order (numeric, then alphabetical), so files are named in order to place them in some reasonable order on the computer. How many "Track 01.mp3;Track 02.mp3" files do you want, really... :)

You misunderstand, Gurn. I'm talking about tags, not filenames. I, also, rename files from the tags ... I just make sure the string goes like this:

%tracknumber%. %composer% ~ %title%

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eyeresist

The title of this thread should be "Which is better English?"  $:)