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« Reply #1240 on: February 20, 2021, 07:24:34 AM »
Yes absolutely re Herrman's creativity.  Its a well-known fact but one that bears repetition - he was one of very few (only?) Hollywood composers who did all his own scoring simply because the intrumental timbres/combinations he had in mind were so unique that not even the most experienced/brilliant orchestrator could recreate them.  What that must have added to his personal workload/pressure given the time constraints of film composing I dread to think.

I still can't really get into his Wuthering Heights - I must try again!

I think that he recycled some of the music for his 'Jane Eyre' film score, which I like very much. I don't have 'Wuthering Heights'.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #1241 on: February 20, 2021, 07:44:31 AM »
I think that he recycled some of the music for his 'Jane Eyre' film score, which I like very much. I don't have 'Wuthering Heights'.

The better performance is the Pro Arte performance under the composer's direction.  It's on youtube and yes he recycled some interludes and such in the opera, also from The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.  Think of this like his version of Ralph Vaughan Williams' Pilgrims Progress in that how material from radio performances, symphonies, stage works were recycled/lifted but clearly was something he cherished and put his soul into nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OoZ3FIN3DE&list=PLK1RsnvOSehRljVpmu7-y8nP0V0dzMeKw

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« Reply #1242 on: February 22, 2021, 07:18:47 AM »
The better performance is the Pro Arte performance under the composer's direction.  It's on youtube and yes he recycled some interludes and such in the opera, also from The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.  Think of this like his version of Ralph Vaughan Williams' Pilgrims Progress in that how material from radio performances, symphonies, stage works were recycled/lifted but clearly was something he cherished and put his soul into nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OoZ3FIN3DE&list=PLK1RsnvOSehRljVpmu7-y8nP0V0dzMeKw

Thanks. That's an interesting point about VW's 'Pilgrim's Progress'. I recall that Herrmann sent the LP boxed set to Sir Arthur Bliss, who sent a polite but not especially enthusiastic letter back. I'd like to hear the opera. Herrmann's score for 'The Ghost and Mrs Muir' is my favourite.
Coincidentally I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this CD which I receved (very inexpensively) today. It allows me to hear much more of the instrumentation that on the original soundtrack recording. One section even reminded me of Vaughan Williams's 'A London Symphony':
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Re: Film (movie) Music
« Reply #1243 on: February 22, 2021, 08:20:37 AM »
Thanks. That's an interesting point about VW's 'Pilgrim's Progress'. I recall that Herrmann sent the LP boxed set to Sir Arthur Bliss, who sent a polite but not especially enthusiastic letter back. I'd like to hear the opera. Herrmann's score for 'The Ghost and Mrs Muir' is my favourite.
Coincidentally I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this CD which I receved (very inexpensively) today. It allows me to hear much more of the instrumentation that on the original soundtrack recording. One section even reminded me of Vaughan Williams's 'A London Symphony':

I remember going with a female friend to see that movie; we were almost sitting on each other's laps and often clutching hands and forearms!

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« Reply #1244 on: February 22, 2021, 04:53:56 PM »
Any fans of Alan Silvestri's score for the film Contact?

I forgot how much I like it until recently as I stumbled across a piano rendition for the theme, which i'm having a crack at learning.

It really is a fantastic score - where you might expect a grand sci-fi brashness there is instead a gorgeously, gentle and generously expansive Americana, more in line with the hopeful vision of the Carl Sagan story. Copland would have been proud.

The film is one of my favourites too - an alien contact film that makes you think and that is optimistic in tone. Something similar but with a rather different approach was Denis Villeneuve's film Arrival. The music there , by Johann Johannsson, is downright terrifying in places - the track First Encounter really gets under my skin - it is truly exotic and fantastic in the literal sense.

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Re: Film (movie) Music
« Reply #1245 on: February 22, 2021, 04:56:40 PM »
Thanks. That's an interesting point about VW's 'Pilgrim's Progress'. I recall that Herrmann sent the LP boxed set to Sir Arthur Bliss, who sent a polite but not especially enthusiastic letter back. I'd like to hear the opera. Herrmann's score for 'The Ghost and Mrs Muir' is my favourite.
Coincidentally I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this CD which I receved (very inexpensively) today. It allows me to hear much more of the instrumentation that on the original soundtrack recording. One section even reminded me of Vaughan Williams's 'A London Symphony':


I've never heard that recording so must search it out.  By the way, the conductor of that album was one of my teachers!  A fabulous man, teacher, and conductor!  I remember seeing him lost in thought after my brass orchestra work and just having a peaceful expression of joy. 

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« Reply #1246 on: February 23, 2021, 05:50:21 AM »
I've never heard that recording so must search it out.  By the way, the conductor of that album was one of my teachers!  A fabulous man, teacher, and conductor!  I remember seeing him lost in thought after my brass orchestra work and just having a peaceful expression of joy.
I didn't remember the music to the film (which I loved--t.v. series too), but found the suite here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHyXnEytO9g

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Re: Film (movie) Music
« Reply #1247 on: February 23, 2021, 06:07:52 AM »
I've never heard that recording so must search it out.  By the way, the conductor of that album was one of my teachers!  A fabulous man, teacher, and conductor!  I remember seeing him lost in thought after my brass orchestra work and just having a peaceful expression of joy.
What a nice story! The 'Jaws' RSNO CD was v cheap and watching the film again recently and enjoying the music gave me the incentive to snap it up (no 'Jaws' pun intended!)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #1248 on: February 23, 2021, 06:12:12 PM »
Carlo Franci was conductor,composer and pioneer in electronic music.This was is lighter side:
https://youtu.be/bsH9XZ6okYU

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« Reply #1249 on: February 24, 2021, 07:15:00 AM »
Any fans of Alan Silvestri's score for the film Contact?

I forgot how much I like it until recently as I stumbled across a piano rendition for the theme, which i'm having a crack at learning.

It really is a fantastic score - where you might expect a grand sci-fi brashness there is instead a gorgeously, gentle and generously expansive Americana, more in line with the hopeful vision of the Carl Sagan story. Copland would have been proud.

The film is one of my favourites too - an alien contact film that makes you think and that is optimistic in tone. Something similar but with a rather different approach was Denis Villeneuve's film Arrival. The music there , by Johann Johannsson, is downright terrifying in places - the track First Encounter really gets under my skin - it is truly exotic and fantastic in the literal sense.

I'm a fan of Silvestri though can't recall the score to Contact.  I was too sad that Sagan had just died and felt the film didn't match up to the quality or imagination of the book that I read in my Astronomy class.  It was considered one of the most sophisticated first contact stories back then because of its geopolitics - how there was such a range of society in how they responded with the suspicious military, the religious overtones, the fanatics, the scientifically curious, the rich benefactor who wants the personal benefits rather than societal benefit, etc., plus it had a team going on the expedition rather than just Jodie Foster which I thought was a dumb subplot in the film.  Most interesting was the conclusion that there was an ancient advanced race (or deity) that had left clues to the architecture of the universe in mathematics.  The film ignored this major revelation.  Anyway, back to Silvestri, love him very much and attended one of his scoring sessions with a humongous orchestra that would have made Mahler envious.  Silvestri was very laid back and friendly.  He shared personal stories of his start in the business with a smile and warmth.  I loved his music even more after that day.

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Re: Film (movie) Music
« Reply #1250 on: February 24, 2021, 10:08:27 AM »
I'm a fan of Silvestri though can't recall the score to Contact.  I was too sad that Sagan had just died and felt the film didn't match up to the quality or imagination of the book that I read in my Astronomy class.  It was considered one of the most sophisticated first contact stories back then because of its geopolitics - how there was such a range of society in how they responded with the suspicious military, the religious overtones, the fanatics, the scientifically curious, the rich benefactor who wants the personal benefits rather than societal benefit, etc., plus it had a team going on the expedition rather than just Jodie Foster which I thought was a dumb subplot in the film.  Most interesting was the conclusion that there was an ancient advanced race (or deity) that had left clues to the architecture of the universe in mathematics.  The film ignored this major revelation.  Anyway, back to Silvestri, love him very much and attended one of his scoring sessions with a humongous orchestra that would have made Mahler envious.  Silvestri was very laid back and friendly.  He shared personal stories of his start in the business with a smile and warmth.  I loved his music even more after that day.

Silvestri is in the best tradition of versatile cinema composers - he really can write in just about any style from comic to epic.  One of my favourite scores by him is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit".  His faux "Looney Toons" writing makes me smile every time (and who doesn't love Jessica Rabbit as welll.........!!)

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Re: Film (movie) Music
« Reply #1251 on: February 26, 2021, 02:41:03 AM »


Amazing album.