Film (movie) Music

Started by vandermolen, August 12, 2008, 12:33:38 AM

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knight66

Banter implies wit, I have not really seen much deployed. I think the thread was simply ground into the dust. A pity.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

sound67

Quote from: knight on August 22, 2008, 10:17:04 AM
Banter implies wit.

Give it a little time. We're working on it.

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

ezodisy

Quote from: sound67 on August 22, 2008, 10:11:15 AM
Various people have tried to jump-start this thread again and again. But it didn't work, because we all enjoy the banter and bickering so much.

Thomas

Yes I gave it a shot, admittedly with a slightly different trajectory in mind, though a shot all the same, and unfortunately it met with single-minded resistance. Sound67, I think several people here, including James, would possibly stop taunting these film composers if they were given a more sound and detailed analysis involving their worth both in and out of films. Yes people can read about it online, but who wants to bother doing that when there's someone here to spoon-feed them? In other words, you'll have to live with the jokes about how rubbish they are until you put up a detailed defence otherwise (one way to do this would be to go into the points I mentioned, as they are first and foremost film composers, and their worth will be tied to the quality of films their music was mixed in with).

sound67

Quote from: ezodisy on August 22, 2008, 10:24:06 AMYes people can read about it online, but who wants to bother doing that when there's someone here to spoon-feed them?

Curious people would bother. Incidentally, by "people who have tried to jump-start this thread", I didn't mean you.

QuoteIn other words, you'll have to live with the jokes about how rubbish they are until you put up a detailed defence otherwise

If you want that, you'd really need to be spoon-fed. Only mommies know how to do that.  :P

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

ezodisy

Quote from: sound67 on August 22, 2008, 10:27:52 AM
Curious people would bother. Incidentally, by "people who have tried to jump-start this thread", I didn't mean you.

So what did you think I was trying to do then? I suspect I am not the only person here tired of hearing you repeat the same thing over and again, hence a change of trajectory required.

sound67

Quote from: ezodisy on August 22, 2008, 10:31:34 AM
So what did you think I was trying to do then? I suspect I am not the only person here tired of hearing you repeat the same thing over and again, hence a change of trajectory required.

Sorry, I'm preaching to the converted here.  $:)

Beginner's class is next week.

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

ezodisy

Repeated evasion and sarcasm says everything. It's a shame, because you know a lot about film music, but seem reluctant to place it where it should be (in the context of a film). Ironically I think the way you push certain film composers actually does less for them than what you originally intend.

sound67

Quote from: ezodisy on August 22, 2008, 10:41:24 AM
Repeated evasion and sarcasm says everything.

I said: next week. That'll give you time to develop a sense of humor.

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

M forever

Quote from: Don on August 22, 2008, 08:57:08 AM
Yes he does - he's intelligent, handsome and from Boston.  That about wraps it up.

Karl is not actually from Boston. He told me where he is from, but also made me promise never to share this horrible secret with anyone, so I can't tell you  0:)


Quote from: sound67 on August 22, 2008, 09:01:49 AM
Handsome? To me he looks a lot like Stravinsky.  8)

In real life, Karl looks more like Yogi Bear than Stravinsky  ;D

knight66

Well, it is certainly true that Stravinsky did not look at all much like Yogi Bear.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Kullervo

Quote from: James on August 22, 2008, 02:59:01 PM
like Bartók for instance - who was from another planet.

Possible riffs: Well, I know Hungary is a strange place, but...

or

Hey, I thought that was Stockhausen!

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: sound67 on August 22, 2008, 06:46:45 AM
I was referring to a comment by M forever DIRECTLY above my reply, so I felt no need for an extra "quote".

You should really try to improve your powers of observation.  ;D


Troll, to avoid confusion you either properly quote someone or you address the person you're referring to BY NAME!

Really very simple, for grownups.

Quote from: DavidRoss on August 22, 2008, 09:01:17 AM
Have you [sound67] gone off your meds?

No doubt.



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Bogey

A new subtopic for Vandermelon's thread, if you will:

What are some soundtracks that you enjoy that have been connected to a movie released in the past six or seven years?  The reason I ask, is that I have bought very little in recent years and was wondering what efforts I should check out.

Thanks.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

sound67



Partially at least a return to form for John Williams. More so I think than the recent Star Wars scores.

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: Bogey on August 22, 2008, 05:32:03 PM
What are some soundtracks that you enjoy that have been connected to a movie released in the past six or seven years?

Few soundtracks this century have blown me away like the classics but these four I enjoy. Since you like Zimmer's Crimson Tide (I do too, very much) and Gladiator, you might want to check out Black Hawk Down and The Last Samurai. Horner's A Beautiful Mind is low key and moody, with some haunting melodies and a minimalist, Nymanesque feel to some of the tracks. Goldsmith's The 13th Warrior has become a favorite of Mrs. Rock's. The music sounds like the exotic Hollywood epics from the 50s, early 60s with a little spaghetti western thrown in, and of course has Goldsmith's weird and signature orchestral effects to further spice up the stew.










Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: sound67 on August 23, 2008, 02:32:34 AM


Partially at least a return to form for John Williams. More so I think than the recent Star Wars scores.

Thomas

I haven't heard this (or seen the film...I have a severe allergy to Tom Cruise) but I do like Williams. In the Potter film he seemed to be coasting. But if this is better I should invest.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

sound67

Now that you remind me: The third Harry Potter had a very good score from Williams, some exciting set-pieces. War of the Worlds, of course, is much darker colored.



Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

DavidRoss

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 23, 2008, 04:33:36 AM
I have a severe allergy to Tom Cruise.
Yes.  His apparent popularity and success--along with that of Jim Carrey--is one of the most puzzling phenomena of our age, and doubtless an indicator of decadence so far advanced that we must surely be in the end times! 

"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

sound67

The problems he's having putting "Valkyrie" together may indicate his luck is running out.



46, and he still looks like a boy dressing up for Halloween.  ;D

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: sound67 on August 23, 2008, 04:38:08 AM
Now that you remind me: The third Harry Potter had a very good score from Williams, some exciting set-pieces. War of the Worlds, of course, is much darker colored.



Thomas

That I haven't heard it (apart from the film, I mean). I only own the first...the Socerer's (Philosopher's) Stone?

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"