Film (movie) Music

[eyeresist]

James: "Film music is bad."
Me: "Why?"
James: "Because it's bad."
Me: "But why?"
James: "Because it's bad."
Me: "Why?"
James: "Because it's bad."
Me: "But, seriously, why?"
James: "Because it's bad."
Me: "But why is it bad?"
James: "Because it's bad."
Me: "Listen, I'd like a proper answer to this question. Why is film music bad?"
James: "Because it's bad."
Me: "Look, if you don't give me a serious and considered answer to this question, I am going to jam this pen into your eye. Why exactly is film music so bad?"
James: "Because it's baAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!"

[jochanaan]

The fact that Bach's been around this long is a fact of reality. It has nothing to do with my opinion.

True.

And when I say no soundtracks could ever touch that .. is also a fact of reality.

False.  We cannot know what people two centuries from now will think of, say, Bernard Herrmann's score for Citizen Kane (I saw this recently and thoroughly enjoyed it, including the music!), any more than other musicians in the Baroque period could have known that we'd still be playing and listening to J.S. Bach's music.  But it begins to seem that you cannot tell the difference between your opinions and reality.

[karlhenning]

And when I say no soundtracks could ever touch that .. is also a fact of reality.

Ladies & gentlemen, it is official: James really does not know what a fact is.

[karlhenning]

The fact is that "this cannot touch that" has no purchase in terms of comparative valuation.  If it mean anything, it means simply that an apple cannot touch an orange.

Shostakovich's soundtrack to a Kozintsev film cannot touch Die Kunst der Fuge; and the b minor Mass cannot touch Ledi Mekbet Mtsenskovo Uyezda.

. . . so what?

[karlhenning]

So it's all about you.  Since you are not interested in the music in movies, it can't possibly be good.   

Mostly because, James, I can't be bothered to try to engage you in musical debate - a) I'm far too tired, and b) what would be the point, I know how you'd respond - with the usual lack of reference to musical specifics and resort to nah, whatever, eye roll, pffff, etc. I could talk, at 1 a.m., after an exhausting week of music-making, start to talk about the structural innovations and influence of the Sonatas and Interludes all night, but what would be the point, your mind is made up and closed, you'll dismiss them as piffle because that's how (without ever giving musial reasons as to why) you dismiss all music in that tradition. The S+I are without doubt a key work in 20th century music, just a key work in an area you don't have any time for.

Simply QFT.

[Grazioso]

James (T. Kirk)

[Scarpia]

I just have higher standards & expectations that's all. Enjoy your McDonalds, that's fine.

That's odd, you appear to be a simple troll.

[karlhenning]

I just have higher standards & expectations that's all.

ROFLMAO

[Scarpia]

Well, let me hear the music that can compare to that level boys. Otherwise it's all just blah blah blah for the sake of it.

As Luke was quoted above, this "challenge" was answered many times by many different people, and these serious suggestions were invariably ignored or dismissed without being substantially address.  Hence the inescapable conclusion, troll.
   

[karlhenning]

And guess what? Luke called that blah blah blah iteration. Positively prescient of him, wot?

LOL

[jochanaan]

Well, let me hear the music that can compare to that level boys. Otherwise it's all just blah blah blah for the sake of it.

You'd do much better to listen without comparing.  That means suspending your preconceptions.  All of them.

[Grazioso]

That means suspending your preconceptions.  All of them.

Without those, what would he be left with? He'd vanish from the space-time continuum with a tiny pop and a little pile of Stockhausen CD's left scattered on the floor.

[karlhenning]

Don't they shine purty, spinnin' on the floor like that, though!

[Philoctetes]

I found this soundtrack extremely pleasing:

http://www.youtube.com/v/W_oYTvgPVfw

[Grazioso]

I have higher standards, I have higher standards, I have higher standaaaaaards!

[Henk]

And it was a big failure - none of those suggestions add up to much. my standards are just a lot higher than you guys.

You listen to pretty much wrong music I find. I have admiration however for you keeping the spirit alive.

Henk

[jochanaan]

...my standards are just a lot higher than you guys.

Including Howard Stern in your current listening, I see. *roflol*

[Scarpia]

And it was a big failure - none of those suggestions add up to much. my standards are just a lot higher than you guys.

I'm afraid you've lost you ability to shock us.  Too repetitive, you've become a tedious old codger.  You'll have to work up a new bit.

[Mirror Image]

All 3rd rate shit replies as expected, on this board. Point out the music kids.

Point out the music? The music has been pointed out to you. Did you not read my post where I mentioned a few of the film scores I liked? I mean are you really that lazy where you can't go back a page or two to find the posts? Again, you're attitude isn't that of someone whose 60 years old, but more like 14.

Is it time for you to get a thicker pair of reading glasses?

[ibanezmonster]

I'm afraid you've lost you ability to shock us.  Too repetitive, you've become a tedious old codger.  You'll have to work up a new bit.

At first I misread "codger" as "cooger." Creepy... 

btw, James is right. Only James is right, and anything who disagrees is wrong. Oh yeah, and Eric Anderson was right, too... wait... hmph. They have different musical tastes. They have different opinions. Wait... ummm.... error... error... does not compute. Circuitry overload.... error... error...

*brain explodes*