Name Your Favored Composer

Started by Don, August 22, 2008, 07:42:44 AM

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Of these three composers, pick your favorite

North
2 (4.9%)
Goldsmith
7 (17.1%)
R. Strauss
32 (78%)

Total Members Voted: 23

Voting closed: August 27, 2008, 07:42:44 AM

eyeresist

Quote from: ezodisy on August 25, 2008, 04:54:58 AM
I still don't understand this obsession with film score merit outside of a film, and unfortunately those who advocate it aren't able to explain it  ::)

Do you understand the obsession with ballet and theatre music outside of the ballet or theatre?*

Music is music.


*Music for radio drama also seems to be regarded as "acceptable".

ezodisy

Quote from: eyeresist on August 25, 2008, 06:29:30 PM
Do you understand the obsession with ballet and theatre music outside of the ballet or theatre?*

Music is music.


*Music for radio drama also seems to be regarded as "acceptable".

No, I don't, I've already said that. Good for you if you do, but I like to see it set. I wouldn't call the above an "obsession" either. I used the word referring to one particular person, though the whole thing does appear far too popular in the good old US of A.

vandermolen

My order is:

1 Goldsmith

2 North

3 R Strauss (never liked his music)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

DavidRoss

Or even if it's just great music, like the ballets by Prokofiev, Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, or the theatre music of Sibelius.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

karlhenning

Quote from: vandermolen on August 26, 2008, 12:21:25 AM
3 R Strauss (never liked his music)

He's slipped out of and back into my sonic favor over the years . . . but I've always had a liking for Till.

mn dave


ChamberNut


mn dave


Wanderer

So, there are people who favour North and Goldsmith over Richard Strauss. It's useful to know such things.

sound67

Quote from: mn dave on August 26, 2008, 09:52:58 AM
Exactly.

A single day it took him to come up with the concept for the entire score.

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

M forever

Quote from: sound67 on August 25, 2008, 04:50:15 AM
But since you're own personal (read: subjective) definition of composition is not relevant ...

Why not? And why should your own personal (read: subjective) definition of composition be more relevant? Especially since Karl is actually a musician, while you aren't.

DavidRoss

Are there really 9 people (out of 41 who've voted) who prefer North's music or Goldsmith's to Richard Strauss's?  Have they never heard the Four Last Songs?  The Oboe Concerto?  Till Eulenspiegel?  The "dream trio" from Der Rosenkavalier?  Or are they just being impudent?
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Sergeant Rock

#112
Quote from: DavidRoss on August 27, 2008, 03:55:26 AM
Are there really 9 people (out of 41 who've voted) who prefer North's music or Goldsmith's to Richard Strauss's?  Have they never heard the Four Last Songs?  The Oboe Concerto?  Till Eulenspiegel?  The "dream trio" from Der Rosenkavalier?  Or are they just being impudent?

Strauss is not universally loved, even by those who like classical music. Mrs. Rock is one. She can't stand Strauss actually. She hasn't voted but if she did, it would be North or Goldsmith, no doubt.


Me...well, I prefer Goldsmith's film scores to Strauss's but perfer Strauss's operas to Goldsmith's. I didn't and won't vote  ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

ezodisy

Quote from: M forever on August 26, 2008, 07:36:04 PM
Especially since Karl is actually a musician, while you aren't.

isn't sound67 a musician? I was under the impression that he is, which is why I've been so tactful so far  ::)

Mark

Quote from: DavidRoss on August 27, 2008, 03:55:26 AM
Are there really 9 people (out of 41 who've voted) who prefer North's music or Goldsmith's to Richard Strauss's?  Have they never heard the Four Last Songs?  The Oboe Concerto?  Till Eulenspiegel?  The "dream trio" from Der Rosenkavalier?  Or are they just being impudent?

My vote for North was pure impudence, David. That said, I can only handle Strauss in small doses. I find him terribly overblown at times. But then, if I'm in a romantic/heroic mode ... ;)

sound67

#115
Quote from: ezodisy on August 27, 2008, 04:47:35 AM... which is why I've been so tactful so far  ::)



No, I'm not a musician. Never claimed to be. So?

I've done film studies at college. Have M forever, or Karl? So?

Have you studied film so you can make qualified statements about the way Tarkovsky uses music in his films (which you did)?

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

karlhenning

Pure impudence has its place, too, Mark  8)

ezodisy

Quote from: sound67 on August 27, 2008, 06:18:31 AM

I've done film studies at college.

You do a very good job of hiding it. Perhaps next you can study music, that way you will stop your silly little criticisms of Bernstein and Strauss, among others, I'm sure.

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Have you studied film so you can make qualified statements about the way Tarkovsky uses music in his films (which you did)?

No I haven't studied it. IMO "film studies" is something of an oxymoron unless you work in the industry, which I presume you don't. Can you quote me on my "qualified statements about the way Tarkovsky uses music in his films"?

sound67

Quote from: ezodisy on August 27, 2008, 06:45:29 AM
You do a very good job of hiding it. Perhaps next you can study music, that way you will stop your silly little criticisms of Bernstein and Strauss, among others, I'm sure.

No I haven't studied it. IMO "film studies" is something of an oxymoron unless you work in the industry, which I presume you don't.

I see. So studies in painting, sculpting, literature, theatre etc. are valid only if you're a working in the respective business??? What a weird way of looking at college education.

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

ezodisy

Quote from: sound67 on August 27, 2008, 06:55:56 AM
I see. So studies in painting, sculpting, literature, theatre etc. are valid only if you're a working in the respective business??? What a weird way of looking at college education.

Thomas

Nice try sound 67. Those other subjects are not film studies so you'll have to try again. Either that or try to write something intelligent about film instead of just repeating the same thing about film music. That way you'll put your "education" into practice.