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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #880 on: January 20, 2020, 10:29:57 PM »
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I also much prefer Tubin. Actually Delius is not a composer whose music I have ever had a strong like or dislike for. There are a few works that I do greatly enjoy including the Piano Concerto, Brigg Fair the North Country Sketches and In a Summer Garden. I also find the end of his Requiem very moving. I think that Vaughan Williams described Delius's music as like 'a curate improvising' but this might have been a bit harsh.

I think a lot of my problem with Delius also stems from his harmonic language. He has produced many lovely harmonies in many of his pieces, but it sure does wear thin when there’s not much happening rhythmically and structurally it just feels the like the same formula for every piece. I’m glad there are people here that like his music, but I mustn’t be counted among them.
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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #881 on: January 20, 2020, 10:31:16 PM »
There is a really awful quality copy of that Bridcut video on YouTube under the title Delius, Composer, lover, enigma.

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #882 on: January 21, 2020, 01:45:11 AM »
I think a lot of my problem with Delius also stems from his harmonic language. He has produced many lovely harmonies in many of his pieces, but it sure does wear thin when there’s not much happening rhythmically and structurally it just feels the like the same formula for every piece. I’m glad there are people here that like his music, but I mustn’t be counted among them.
I largely agree with your 'lack of variety' comment.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #883 on: January 21, 2020, 01:46:32 AM »
I agree with Sarge.

I too.

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Although sometime our good friend John, if my memory is correct, goes from rapturous fan to intense dislike.

Correct. The most extreme such case was with Poulenc's piano music: in two consecutive (!!!) posts he went from singing its praises to disparaging it strongly. Currently he adores it, though.

But, as Sarge said, this is part of his charm.  :D
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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #884 on: January 21, 2020, 01:55:23 AM »
Delius is a composer who had a unique style, a unique aesthetic, and a unique technique which produced this. Sometimes it is just what I want to hear, often it is not. When it is what I want to hear, there is no substitute. Decrying his supposed inadequacies seems utterly besides the point.

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #885 on: January 21, 2020, 03:01:43 AM »
I just bought this:



For $2.68, free shipping. I couldn't pass it up at that price! Does anyone know whether the CD is any good or not? I suspect from these capable forces that it is at least interesting and relatively faithful to the composers' scores. If anyone else is interested, there are other very cheap copies on the Amazon US Marketplace.

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #886 on: January 21, 2020, 03:39:15 AM »
I just bought this:



For $2.68, free shipping. I couldn't pass it up at that price! Does anyone know whether the CD is any good or not? I suspect from these capable forces that it is at least interesting and relatively faithful to the composers' scores. If anyone else is interested, there are other very cheap copies on the Amazon US Marketplace.
Yes, it's a fabulous CD! (All three works).
Sounds like a real bargain - you won't regret it.

It also appeared in this manifestation:
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #887 on: January 21, 2020, 04:00:27 AM »
Damn, I like that artwork a lot better :laugh: Oh well. I'm sure the one I got is fine.

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #888 on: January 21, 2020, 04:47:59 AM »
Damn, I like that artwork a lot better :laugh: Oh well. I'm sure the one I got is fine.
I have both  ::)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #889 on: January 21, 2020, 07:31:21 PM »
Yes, it's a fabulous CD! (All three works).
Sounds like a real bargain - you won't regret it.

It also appeared in this manifestation:


I know Delius almost entirely from the excellent barbirolli recordings, which don’t include the piano concerto. Would it be reasonable that this is the best place to start for the Delius concerto?

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #890 on: January 21, 2020, 11:16:19 PM »
I know Delius almost entirely from the excellent barbirolli recordings, which don’t include the piano concerto. Would it be reasonable that this is the best place to start for the Delius concerto?
I think so but I'm no expert, maybe others will chip in.
I also like the Hyperion CD of the original version which has a nice collection of works and I also like this well known historic version which first drew my attention to the work on LP ( the CD is on the Testament label if the picture doesn't appear):
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #891 on: January 22, 2020, 12:21:33 AM »
I think so but I'm no expert, maybe others will chip in.
I also like the Hyperion CD of the original version which has a nice collection of works and I also like this well known historic version which first drew my attention to the work on LP ( the CD is on the Testament label if the picture doesn't appear):


Duh, I have that Hyperion recording, but have never found time to listen!

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Re: Frederick Delius
« Reply #892 on: January 22, 2020, 12:54:26 AM »
Beecham's wife was pianist on a recording they made together.

At one time I visited a specialist of music for films record shop in Brighton. The only occasion in donkey years of collecting that an owner of a vinyl emporium actually gave me a record as he liked it so much. He is right the Jean Pougnet Delius VC is one of the finest Delius recordings.

 
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