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Lisztianwagner

Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 08, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
Mahler appears to be dominating the listening thread!!!  8)  ;D

:)
And to think the great Carlos Kleiber called Mahler's music a "neurotic mess".......
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Quote from: Lisztianwagner on March 08, 2012, 01:05:18 PM
:)
And to think the great Carlos Kleiber called Mahler's music a "neurotic mess".......

Although I don't agree I can understand someone thinking so :)

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Quote from: Sadko on March 08, 2012, 01:09:28 PM
Although I don't agree I can understand someone thinking so :)

:)
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Ataraxia

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on March 08, 2012, 01:05:18 PM
And to think the great Carlos Kleiber called Mahler's music a "neurotic mess".......

Smart guy.

Karl Henning

Did he say it, like it was a bad thing?
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Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: Lisztianwagner on March 08, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Yes, I suppose they would have chosen better recordings for the 6th symphony, the Bernstein or the Solti would have been the top for me...

Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 08, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
I agree about the Abbado 6th too... not one of my favourites. I don't know the Sinopoli yet (the box set is still awaiting me on the listening pile...) but would rather assign the 6th to Solti, or Bernstein.

Yeah, those would be two of my top choices too (Solti has been, in the Rock household, number one for 40 years) but DG went for a different conductor for each symphony. That's why I simply swapped Sinopoli and Abbado, leaving Bernstein with 5 and Solti with 8.

Edit: Hmmmm....better yet: Abbado 7, Solti 6, Sinopoli 8. They should have had me on board  ;D

Sarge

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on March 08, 2012, 01:05:18 PM
And to think the great Carlos Kleiber called Mahler's music a "neurotic mess".......

Well, like Mahler himself, it kinda is (see my signature quote  ;D )

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

madaboutmahler

Quote from: karlhenning on March 08, 2012, 01:04:37 PM
World domination!

YES!!!!! The day has come!!!  :D

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on March 08, 2012, 01:05:18 PM
:)
And to think the great Carlos Kleiber called Mahler's music a "neurotic mess".......

:o

And to think I once had great admiration and respect for that conductor....  ???
(assuming he meant it in a bad way....)
Quote from: MN Dave on March 08, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Smart guy.

David?!!!!  :o  :o
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madaboutmahler

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 08, 2012, 01:15:19 PM
Yeah, those would be two of my top choices too (Solti has been, in the Rock household, number one for 40 years) but DG went for a different conductor for each symphony. That's why I simply swapped Sinopoli and Abbado, leaving Bernstein with 5 and Solti with 8.

Edit: Hmmmm....better yet: Abbado 7, Solti 6, Sinopoli 8. They should have had me on board  ;D

Sarge

A different conductor for each symphony? hmmm... better yet: no.5: Chailly, no.6: Solti, no.8. Sinopoli. :D and Bernstein for no.3.

:)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 08, 2012, 01:20:57 PM
A different conductor for each symphony? hmmm... better yet: no.5: Chailly, no.6: Solti, no.8. Sinopoli. :D and Bernstein for no.3.

Works for me. I prefer Chailly to Bernstein in 5...and Bernstein's 3 is one of the great ones  :)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

madaboutmahler

Quote from: MN Dave on March 08, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
Someone has to play the Anti-Mahler.  >:D

No they don't!

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 08, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
Works for me. I prefer Chailly to Bernstein in 5...and Bernstein's 3 is one of the great ones  :)

Sarge

:) Yes, Chailly is my favourite 5th. Bernstein's is great too though of course. Bernstein's 3rd is rather unmatched for me... :) I wonder who this would leave us for the 10th? Daniel Harding perhaps? That is on DG isn't it? I haven't heard it yet...
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— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: karlhenning on March 08, 2012, 01:13:29 PM
Did he say it, like it was a bad thing?
Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 08, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
:o

And to think I once had great admiration and respect for that conductor....  ???
(assuming he meant it in a bad way....)

Well, Kleiber didn't love Mahler's music very much, although he recorded Das Lied von der Erde.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: madaboutmahler on March 08, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
No they don't!

:) Yes, Chailly is my favourite 5th. Bernstein's is great too though of course. Bernstein's 3rd is rather unmatched for me... :) I wonder who this would leave us for the 10th? Daniel Harding perhaps? That is on DG isn't it? I haven't heard it yet...

Yeah, Harding is on DG with the Vienna Phil. I heard that combo live, actually, in Frankfurt. Liked it then but I haven't heard their recording. Since I'm not too fond of Chailly's Tenth, I wouldn't be sad to see it go.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on March 08, 2012, 01:13:29 PM
Did he say it, like it was a bad thing?

Exactly...Mahler is messed up in a good way...like several women I dated in my youth ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

mahler10th

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 08, 2012, 10:43:13 AM
I need to listen to more of Grainger. There's an attractive looking set on Chandos that I'll probably get. I remember The Warriors being a good work, but it's been quite some time since I heard it. By the way, Daniel, have you received any of the CDs you ordered yet? I'm looking forward to reading your reaction to that Schermerhorn VL set you bought, which I have really enjoyed.

I am not a huge fan of Grainger.  GMG mag illustrates another GMGer who feels the same way.  I think he's lightweight and just plain 'not good enough' - good, though, for writing television music or something.  Anyway, having lambasted Grainger, I'm listening to this:

Shostakovich 2
Haitink
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Very satisfying.