What were you listening to? (CLOSED)

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PaulR

Amazon cancelled my Dvorak order due to "Lack of availability"   >:(

Oh well.

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Papy Oli on June 17, 2012, 05:19:02 AM
What is the split between male/female singers in that Hyperion boxset ? Also, is there a particular CD with a female singer in that boxset that you would recommend as a sampler ?

I did a quick count, really quick: I may be off by one or two: 37 male, 25 female. The box is different than the individual CDs (where most discs were devoted to a single singer) in that the songs are presented chronologically, meaning you get a mix of male and female singers on each disc. If you are allergic to the distaff side, you won't be happy with Hyperion. Stick with F-D. On the other hand, if you aren't allergic to the female voice, the Hyperion line-up is breathtaking: Popp, Baker, Ameling, Price, Fassbaender, Argenta, Lott, Mathis, Schäfer etc.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

North Star

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 16, 2012, 05:45:00 AM
I suppose so, Karlo but I always recommend Barshai for newcomers to Shostakovich's symphonies. By the way, the Jansons set of Shostakovich had a defective disc (the performance of the 7th symphony), I hope yours doesn't. Many people have complained about this on Amazon.

No trouble with my set, John.

Continuing with no. 13 'Babi Yar' now.
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PaulR

Quote from: North Star on June 17, 2012, 06:02:23 AM
No trouble with my set, John.

Continuing with no. 13 'Babi Yar' now.
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Wonderful reading of that work.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Papy Oli on June 17, 2012, 05:19:02 AM
hmmm.... you're the devil, right ?  >:D

What is the split between male/female singers in that Hyperion boxset ? Also, is there a particular CD with a female singer in that boxset that you would recommend as a sampler ? Reason I am asking is I have one Schubert Lieder CD with Arleen Auger and that never clicked for me (it could be Auger's voice, it could be the particular recording, it could be the schubert/female voice combo, it could be just me, I don't know...) ...whereas I appear to be much more receptive to Schubert Lieder with a male voice (heard Goerne live, DFD on this CD now)...hence my inclination towards the DFD set.
Hmmm. Good question. I've never really sat down to figure that out.
The women can be sampled as follows:
vol1: Janet Baker (wonderful, and I am not really a Baker fan, but the singing is good)
vol3: Anne Murray (beautiful and intimate - outstanding)
5: Elizabeth Connell (a bit shriller voice - not sure how you will like this one, though she sings well)
7: Elly Ameling (tender voice, love how she shapes the lines - oustanding)
8: Sarah Walker (mezzo - excellent, even Erlkonig works well)
9: Arlene Auger (assume this is the one you have)
11: Brigitte Fassbender (does she ever sing badly? Excellent)
13: Marie McLaughlin (excellent)
15: Margaret Price (such a velvety voice - another winner, outstanding)
17: Lucia Popp (again shapes the line well, recorded not long before she passed - excellent)
19: Felicity Lott (tenderly sung with great charm, though not my favorite - ok)
21: Edith Mathis (she makes so much of these - brings out a richness, even though she is not always a voice I enjoy - excellent)
29: Marjana Lipovsek (with Nathan Berg) (rich, dark voice - excellent; and Berg is outstanding too by the way)
31: Christine Brewer (with Chorus) (heartfelt singing - excellent; three with chorus too - about 30 min worth)

The men as follows:
vol2: Stephen Varco
vol4: Phillip Langridge
6: Anthony Rolfe Johnson
10: Martyn Hill
12: Adrian Thompson (the only weak disc for me)
14: Thomas Hampson
16: Thomas Allen
18: Peter Schreier
23: Christoph Pregardien
25: Ian Bostridge
27: Matthias Goerne (with Christine Schafer)
30: Goerne (Winterreise)
37: Mark Ainsley, Anthony Rolfe Johnson, and Michael Schade

Mix:
20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36

So overall, you get about half with women and half with men. You may recognize many of the women, so that may help you decide. In general, I like nearly all of them.  Hyperion provide good samples on their site, so maybe try a few of them to see what you think. I put my thoughts in parentheses, but not sure how much our tastes will align.

I too prefer the male voice for these songs, so I understand the issue. Price may be another factor. DFD box is $88 at Deep Discount (though currently out of stock), that's a great deal, while the Hyperion box is sure to be more. Anyway, perhaps this info helps make the decision. Either way, you can download the booklet from the Hyperion site, which has all the texts.

I see Sarge also responded. The only thing I would add is that the line up of singers in general is top notch as he said.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Karl Henning

Quote from: PaulR on June 17, 2012, 06:06:14 AM

Quote from: North Star on June 17, 2012, 06:02:23 AM
Continuing with no. 13 'Babi Yar' now.
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Wonderful reading of that work.

(* pounds the table *)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

PaulR

Quote from: karlhenning on June 17, 2012, 06:21:43 AM
Wonderful reading of that work.


(* pounds the table *)
You have one sturdy table with all the pounding you do of it :P

North Star

Quote from: karlhenning on June 17, 2012, 06:21:43 AM
Quote from: PaulR on June 17, 2012, 06:06:14 AM
Wonderful reading of that work.
(* pounds the table *)

Certainly sounds wonderful, I'm in the third movement now.
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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Karl Henning

Quote from: PaulR on June 17, 2012, 06:24:30 AM
You have one sturdy table with all the pounding you do of it :P

And true it is, I have frequent occasion!

Sorry about that Dvořák cancellation, Paul!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

kishnevi

Quote from: pi2000 on June 17, 2012, 02:10:28 AM
Augustin Hadelich
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Looks interesting, and not very expensive on Amazon MP.  Thank you.  (I have his two Naxos CDs.)

On the topic of Schubert sung by women--you might want to try Fassbaender's performance of Winterreise, which is on EMI, and has nothing to with the Hyperion, and which some people don't like, but I do.

Sergeant Rock

After a morning and afternoon of Wagner, something completely different now, beginning with Gershwin's "Swanee."




Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

PaulR

I guess I am part of the herd mentality:

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Opus106

Quote from: PaulR on June 17, 2012, 07:05:38 AM
I guess I am part of the herd mentality.

I'm sure there's dissent encoded into that statement of yours. >:(

Thread Duty:
La Mer - G4 (!)
Regards,
Navneeth

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Opus106 on June 17, 2012, 07:10:57 AM
Thread Duty:
La Mer - G4 (!)

That's a great one, Nav! Can't wait for the reveal... :D

"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Opus106

Regards,
Navneeth

pi2000

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on June 17, 2012, 06:29:42 AM
Looks interesting, and not very expensive on Amazon MP.  Thank you.  (I have his two Naxos CDs.)

On the topic of Schubert sung by women--you might want to try Fassbaender's performance of Winterreise, which is on EMI, and has nothing to with the Hyperion, and which some people don't like, but I do.
Very interesting violinist,but very tough repertoire!!!After Bartok solo sonata,even Paganini caprices sounded strange  :o

madaboutmahler

"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: Opus106 on June 17, 2012, 07:10:57 AM
Thread Duty:
La Mer - G4 (!)

+1

I'm listening to E1 and G4 again; that's rather hard to decide which one is the best, they're both so beautiful! ;D
I will post all my thoughts this evening anyway.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

listener

The e-mail from amazon that came yesterday confirmed they were shipping the Dvorak, so I need to move some to make room.  Today a couple of re-visits:  DOPPER   Symphony no. 2     and RAFF  piano music vol. 2
and from further back the Giulini set with RAVEL: Daphnis and Chloé Suite 2, Alborada del Gracioso, BRITTEN: 4 Sea Interludes, Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra,  FRANCK: Symphony in d, Psyché et Eros, SCHUMANN Manfred Overture, and TCHAIKOWSKY Symphony no.2
all with the^Philharmonia Orchestra (and all are EMI recordings)
"Keep your hand on the throttle and your eye on the rail as you walk through life's pathway."

madaboutmahler

Just back from:



First listen to this recording which John recommended to me ages ago, it's been on my listening pile for a long time! Absolutely outstanding performance: incredibly moving, thrilling, always engaging! The orchestra is really superb. Definitely a D+C I shall be revisiting very soon! Amazing! :) :)

Definitely one of my favourite pieces of all time... :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven