What were you listening to? (CLOSED)

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Coco

First listen to this composer, the pieces on the disc spanning a period from 1945 to 1986. Should be interesting.


Opus106

Re: Pettersson's 7th, the middle section (3rd/4th videos on YouTube) is completely not what I expected from this composer given his reputation as the raucous one. At first I though I was just in right mood for the music, but I think I can get used to him.
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Navneeth

Antoine Marchand

#91942
Frequently I think Pierre Hantaï is like that box of chocolates of Forrest Gump... You never know what you're gonna get.

Here I have found again the best Hantaï, the same guy who plays the Goldbergs and Frescobaldi's Partitas & Toccatas:

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8)

Lethevich

Quote from: Opus106 on September 05, 2011, 07:16:20 AM
[It's inevitable, if you think about it. ;D]

http://www.youtube.com/v/4bMNzqMkW3U

The gateway drug! Soon you'll be hooked on the hard stuff :(

Significant other wants to listen to something nicer before I go to sleep (apparently Simpson was included in this "not nice" category too):

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Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Brahmsian

Quote from: toñito on September 05, 2011, 07:43:36 AM
Usually I think Pierre Hantaï is like that box of chocolates of Forrest Gump... You never know what you're gonna get.

Here I have again found the best Hantaï, the same guy who plays the Goldbergs and Frescobaldi's Partitas & Toccatas:

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8)

You must chose, Antonio - this cover either belongs in the 'worst LP/CD cover' thread, or in the 'best of'.   :D ;)

DieNacht

#91945
Concerning the harshness of the CPO Pettersson symphony recordings, the old CBS 6/Kamu, the old philips 9/Comissiona, the BIS 11/Segerstam and the Phono Suecia 14/Comissiona all present a more lyrical reading than the CPOs, which I tend to prefer; likewise the Caprice 2.Violin Cto/Ida Haendel which is hugely different from the CPO recording ...

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: ChamberNut on September 05, 2011, 07:45:42 AM
You must chose, Antonio - this cover either belongs in the 'worst LP/CD cover' thread, or in the 'best of'.   :D ;)

Well, this CD was also included into this box set, but I don't know if it was an aesthetic improvement:

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;D

SonicMan46

A couple of new 'J' composers for me - both MP3 downloads from Classicsonline based on recent recommendations in the music periodicals:

Jadin, Hyacinthe (1776-1800) - String Quartets w/ Franz Joseph SQ.  Despite his premature death from tuberculosis, he wrote a LOT of music for his young age (check HERE - my first exposure to him! 

Jadassohn, Salomon (1831-1902) - Piano Trios w/ Syrius Trio; another new composer to me - some of his works listed HERE, including 4 symphonies, 2 piano concertos, bunch of piano chamber works, such as the trios here - :)

 

Mirror Image

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 05, 2011, 07:02:38 AM
Following up Pettersson 10 with 11. 10 is so relentlessly harsh and...noisy (I doubt there are more than two or three minutes of soft playing in the entire symphony), one needs 11 as balance. In fact, they were composed together and form what seems a complete work made of two parts.

Sarge

This is my general problem with Pettersson's late symphonies. They go on and on without any kind of relief. The reason why the 7th was so successful (and still is amongst listeners) is because of the dark/light aspect of the work. The symphony is 40+ minutes, but it contains some heart-wrenching moments of such poignant lyricism that keeps a proper balance of things. The same with the 6th and 8th. There is enough light in these works that I don't walk away from the listening experience feeling down and out.

Coopmv

Now playing CD1 from the following twofer for a first listen ...


Brian

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 05, 2011, 08:42:38 AM
This is my general problem with Pettersson's late symphonies. They go on and on without any kind of relief. The reason why the 7th was so successful (and still is amongst listeners) is because of the dark/light aspect of the work. The symphony is 40+ minutes, but it contains some heart-wrenching moments of such poignant lyricism that keeps a proper balance of things. The same with the 6th and 8th. There is enough light in these works that I don't walk away from the listening experience feeling down and out.

Sounds like you (and I) should try the 14th.

karlhenning

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 05, 2011, 08:42:38 AM
This is my general problem with Pettersson's late symphonies. They go on and on without any kind of relief.

I don't mind that as an affective scheme, necessarily. I still don't buy the musical rhetoric.  But . . . Sara's got me angling gradually to revisit the weepy Swede . . . .

Mirror Image

Quote from: Brian on September 05, 2011, 08:45:41 AM
Sounds like you (and I) should try the 14th.

Perhaps we should Brian, but I made my through Pettersson's entire symphonic cycle many months ago. I'm a bit burned out on his music. He's not a composer I plan on listening to with any kind frequency, unless it's Symphonies Nos. 6-8 or the Violin Concerto No. 2. I'm just not brave anymore. :)

DieNacht

#91953
An example: Pettersson´s 9 with Comissiona lasts 85 minutes as opposed to the CPO recordings 70 minutes; this of course means slower tempi and a much more lyrical approach to the string writing, for instance.

Mirror Image

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 05, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
I don't mind that as an affective scheme, necessarily. I still don't buy the musical rhetoric.  But . . . Sara's got me angling gradually to revisit the weepy Swede . . . .

Listen to the music and judge for yourself. It really doesn't matter to me if you buy the musical rhetoric or not. Pettersson was a composer who wrote music that reflected himself and the world he lived in. He's not a composer of different personas or masks. Accept the music on its own terms or don't.

mahler10th

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 05, 2011, 08:50:42 AM
Perhaps we should Brian, but I made my through Pettersson's entire symphonic cycle many months ago. I'm a bit burned out on his music. He's not a composer I plan on listening to with any kind frequency, unless it's Symphonies Nos. 6-8 or the Violin Concerto No. 2. I'm just not brave anymore. :)

After putting yourself through such an ordeal, I am surprised your communication is still legible and indeed that you are alive and survived Petterssons symphonic output.  Love it.  Meanwhile...


Mirror Image

Quote from: DieNacht on September 05, 2011, 08:56:12 AM
An example: Pettersson's 9 with Comissiona lasts 85 minutes as opposed to the CPO recording's 70 minutes; this of course means slower tempi and a much more lyrical approach to the string wirting, for instance.

Too bad the 9th just doesn't work musically for me. It could go on for 8 hours, I'm still not impressed with that symphony.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 05, 2011, 03:55:01 AM
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I'm going through a David Lang day...
Now to...


Mirror Image

Quote from: John of Glasgow on September 05, 2011, 08:58:05 AMAfter putting yourself through such an ordeal, I am surprised your communication is still legible and indeed that you are alive and survived Petterssons symphonic output.

Yeah, it wasn't easy. I had Jack Daniels and some Smirnoff vodka to help me through it. ;) :D

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 05, 2011, 09:01:11 AM
Yeah, it wasn't easy. I had Jack Daniels and some Smirnoff vodka to help me through it. ;) :D


Sounds like my first marriage, (cymbal crash)!