Elliott Carter versus John Williams

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Whose music of these two American composers do you find more dramatic, taking the word 'dramatic' to mean stirring, exciting, exploiting every manner of expression and making a deep and cathartic impression ?

Elliott Carter
25 (71.4%)
John Williams
10 (28.6%)

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Catison

#40
September 27, 2008, 08:59:14 AM
Excuse me, but can we please get back to the discussion of Elliott Carter vs. John Williams??!

For me: I like a little Williams in the morning, and then some Carter at night.
-Brett

karlhenning

#41
September 27, 2008, 09:05:39 AM
Has Yo-Yo Ma ever played anything by Carter?

'Nuff said.

lukeottevanger

#42
September 27, 2008, 09:12:08 AM
He's played 'em both. Ergo, they both pass the Yo-Yo test...

karlhenning

#43
September 27, 2008, 09:14:44 AM
Quote from: lukeottevanger on September 27, 2008, 09:12:08 AM
He's played 'em both. Ergo, they both pass the Yo-Yo test...

Okay.

Now, what is the capital of Assyria?

lukeottevanger

#44
September 27, 2008, 09:16:10 AM Last Edit: September 27, 2008, 09:18:40 AM by lukeottevanger
Trick question. Nineveh or Assur?  ;D     (or, apparently, Calah and Dur Sharrukin, too)

Joe_Campbell

#45
September 27, 2008, 09:51:07 AM
Can the OP delete posts in his/her own thread?

Joe_Campbell

#47
September 27, 2008, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 27, 2008, 10:15:01 AM
No.
Oh...I got confused. There was a football tangent in another thread and for some reason I thought it was this one (same OP). Nevermind. :)

karlhenning

#49
September 27, 2008, 04:07:27 PM
Wrong, Greg; just wrong.

Szykneij

#50
September 27, 2008, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 27, 2008, 04:07:27 PM
Wrong, Greg; just wrong.

But clever, nonetheless.
Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige

karlhenning

#51
September 27, 2008, 05:23:36 PM
Oh, we gladly grant him that.

Schicksal

#52
September 28, 2008, 08:37:34 AM
Quote from: JCampbell on September 27, 2008, 09:51:07 AMCan the OP delete posts in his/her own thread?

But the OP can delete his original post, which deletes the entire thread.

John Williams's impact on movie music has been disastrous, imho. Ever since Star Wars, everything has to be big and brassy and pompous, like an army is marching into Berlin. Hollywood wants nothing but the soundtrack to war. The really beautiful, atmospheric stuff, like the scores Rota wrote for the Godfather and Barbiei wrote for Last Tango, don't get written anymore. Or they get overlooked.

karlhenning

#53
September 28, 2008, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: Schicksal on September 28, 2008, 08:37:34 AM
John Williams's impact on movie music has been disastrous, imho. Ever since Star Wars, everything has to be big and brassy and pompous, like an army is marching into Berlin. Hollywood wants nothing but the soundtrack to war. The really beautiful, atmospheric stuff, like the scores Rota wrote for the Godfather and Barbiei wrote for Last Tango, don't get written anymore. Or they get overlooked.

Fargo?

71 dB

#54
September 28, 2008, 11:29:14 AM Last Edit: September 28, 2008, 11:32:38 AM by 71 dB
Quote from: Schicksal on September 28, 2008, 08:37:34 AM
John Williams's impact on movie music has been disastrous, imho. Ever since Star Wars, everything has to be big and brassy and pompous, like an army is marching into Berlin. Hollywood wants nothing but the soundtrack to war. The really beautiful, atmospheric stuff, like the scores Rota wrote for the Godfather and Barbiei wrote for Last Tango, don't get written anymore. Or they get overlooked.

Stupid statement! Of course war movies have brassy/pompous music. You need to hear John Williams's soundtrack for "Catch Me If You Can." Don't blame him for bad music by others.
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#55
September 28, 2008, 11:53:39 AM
The Catch Me If You Can soundtrack is very good.

Catison

#56
September 28, 2008, 12:10:49 PM
Quote from: Schicksal on September 28, 2008, 08:37:34 AM
John Williams's impact on movie music has been disastrous, imho. Ever since Star Wars, everything has to be big and brassy and pompous

Are you familiar with Korngold, Rosza, Steiner, or Herrmann?
-Brett

Schicksal

#57
September 28, 2008, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: 71 dB on September 28, 2008, 11:29:14 AM
blame him for bad music by others.

No, I blame him for bad music by him. But his influence has been pernicious. And Star Wars brought a great period of movies to a dead end.

Fargo was nice soundtrack.

71 dB

#58
September 28, 2008, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: Schicksal on September 28, 2008, 01:17:46 PM
No, I blame him for bad music by him. But his influence has been pernicious. And Star Wars brought a great period of movies to a dead end.

The music in Star Wars movies is brilliant. I don't remember ever hearing bad music by John Williams. That's what I think but by all means keep your opinions.  :P
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Homo Aestheticus

#59
September 28, 2008, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: Schicksal on September 28, 2008, 01:17:46 PM
No, I blame him for bad music by him. But his influence has been pernicious. And Star Wars brought a great period of movies to a dead end.

Fargo was nice soundtrack.

Schicksal,

Do you not even find this stirring and beautiful ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7VKAyrDm0

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