Andre Jolivet

[snyprrr]

I've got the Erato set. Good stuff.

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[Monsieur Croche]

A few pieces with at least a few other facets than the brilliant, snappy and usually good-humored and ebullient Jolivet:

Missa Uxor tua This performance of this mass is remarkable for the clean intonation of both chorus and soloists.
(complete)https://www.youtube.com/v/hLC7-kYEmFU

Suite Delphique for twelve instruments, including Ondes Martenot.
...incidental music for the play Iphigenia at Delphi by Gerhart Hauptmann. 
The work is, to the requirement of the task at hand, evocative of place, moods (and hey, Greek Tragedy.)  If not a contradiction, in quick spot checking it after all these years, it still strikes me as listenable and 'fun.'
parts I - III https://www.youtube.com/v/WkLmPBYRUcM
parts IV - VI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOF5vkMq1LA
parts VII & VIII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ni1Ceccku0

[nathanb]

Even if he wasn't a solid composer, he should be a household name for having an ondes martenot concerto anyway

The entire Erato set is amazing though... Haven't heard much else besides those four discs though, tbh.

[snyprrr]

Even if he wasn't a solid composer, he should be a household name for having an ondes martenot concerto anyway

The entire Erato set is amazing though... Haven't heard much else besides those four discs though, tbh.

All I have is the flute/harp ASV disc with Noakes, great, and the 'Heptade' for trumpet/perc., and a bassoon piece or two, very nice. I know he's got some rought stuff too, all these are very nice and French, bracing... oh, and the famous 'Chant de...??'...

I know that Erato set... maybe someday...

[snyprrr]

His FC has a streamlined, moden feel to it, like a race car riding through a haunted landscape. Best ending ever...


Almost getting the EratoBox...


Flute Sonata also one of my favs...

[millionrainbows]

Jolivet is fascinating as an artist. The connection to Varese is interesting; both were interested in 'dark' and irrational aspects of the human psyche, and our repressed, forgotten, primitive  impulses, called 'the unconscious.' Their music is incantatory, as if it were a tool or metaphysical technology which could help us tap in to these mysterious regions of the being.

From WIK, we read: [Jolivet's intent as a composer throughout his career was to "give back to music its original, ancient meaning, when it was the magical, incantatory expression of the religious beliefs of human groups."]

[snyprrr]

Jolivet is fascinating as an artist. The connection to Varese is interesting; both were interested in 'dark' and irrational aspects of the human psyche, and our repressed, forgotten, primitive  impulses, called 'the unconscious.' Their music is incantatory, as if it were a tool or metaphysical technology which could help us tap in to these mysterious regions of the being.

From WIK, we read: [Jolivet's intent as a composer throughout his career was to "give back to music its original, ancient meaning, when it was the magical, incantatory expression of the religious beliefs of human groups."]

did he know Crowley? hmm.....

[millionrainbows]

did he know Crowley? hmm.....

To be fair to Varese, Jolivet, and the theories of the unconscious which started with Nietzsche and Schopenhauer, and developed through Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Surrealism, Dada, Mallarme, and Abstract Expressionism, my comments are not intended to imply Satanism. That's a distortion-and-a-half; I hope you are joking.

[Symphonic Addict]

A shame this remarkable composer has so few comments on his thread. Just heard his Cello Concerto No. 2 (1966) and what an incredibly stern piece this is. Astringent, severe, challenging, even I dare to say, nightmarish and harrowing. A work of this caliber needs several listens to grasp it better. A sensational creation.

[Mirror Image]

A shame this remarkable composer has so few comments on his thread. Just heard his Cello Concerto No. 2 (1966) and what an incredibly stern piece this is. Astringent, severe, challenging, even I dare to say, nightmarish and harrowing. A work of this caliber needs several listens to grasp it better. A sensational creation.

Jolivet is a fascinating composer, Cesar. All I own of his music is that 4-CD Erato set that probably everyone with an interest in this composer bought many years ago. He, at times, reminds me of Isang Yun actually or, at least, in the Cello Concerto No. 2 you mention. Something about those sustained tones over glissandos that brought Yun to mind.

[Symphonic Addict]

Jolivet is a fascinating composer, Cesar. All I own of his music is that 4-CD Erato set that probably everyone with an interest in this composer bought many years ago. He, at times, reminds me of Isang Yun actually or, at least, in the Cello Concerto No. 2 you mention. Something about those sustained tones over glissandos that brought Yun to mind.

Precisely, the association makes much sense when textures, effects and atmosphere converge and impress. Two remarkable musical figures.

[Mirror Image]

Precisely, the association makes much sense when textures, effects and atmosphere converge and impress. Two remarkable musical figures.

Whole-heartedly agree with you!

[kyjo]

A shame this remarkable composer has so few comments on his thread. Just heard his Cello Concerto No. 2 (1966) and what an incredibly stern piece this is. Astringent, severe, challenging, even I dare to say, nightmarish and harrowing. A work of this caliber needs several listens to grasp it better. A sensational creation.

Interesting, Cesar. What I've heard by Jolivet so far (1st Symphony, Violin Concerto) has certainly been challenging to say the least. I can't say I enjoyed the music, but due to your enthusiasm I'll give that Cello Concerto a fair shot.

[Mirror Image]

Interesting, Cesar. What I've heard by Jolivet so far (1st Symphony, Violin Concerto) has certainly been challenging to say the least. I can't say I enjoyed the music, but due to your enthusiasm I'll give that Cello Concerto a fair shot.

Give a listen to the Bassoon Concerto while you're at it. 

[kyjo]

Give a listen to the Bassoon Concerto while you're at it. 

Oh, I forgot - I love the Bassoon Concerto! In fact, it's my favorite concerto for the instrument (that I know) and is more accessible than Jolivet's other works that I've heard. It's jazzy, colorful, and totally unique!

[Mirror Image]

Oh, I forgot - I love the Bassoon Concerto! In fact, it's my favorite concerto for the instrument (that I know) and is more accessible than Jolivet's other works that I've heard. It's jazzy, colorful, and totally unique!

A cool work, indeed.

[Symphonic Addict]

Oh, I forgot - I love the Bassoon Concerto! In fact, it's my favorite concerto for the instrument (that I know) and is more accessible than Jolivet's other works that I've heard. It's jazzy, colorful, and totally unique!

Another of his alluring concertos is the one for Ondes Martenot and Orchestra. Quite a cool piece.

[Symphonic Addict]

Earlier I was giving the Trumpet Concerto No. 2 a spin from this splendid set, and quite a contrast it is regarding other of his more-modernist pieces. How fun and catchy it is, above all the 3rd mov. which is aptly marked Giocoso. It contains a rhythmic motif that will stick in your mind for awhile. All the piece is imbued with American rhythms and gestures, it's a complete delight.

BTW, this is the best Jolivet set out there hands down. Anyone interested in exploring this composer should start with it.

[pjme]

https://www.youtube.com/v/gh_DRlxIRhE

https://www.youtube.com/v/VDh7YfcJyBI

https://www.youtube.com/v/7ztNTUGMS-0

https://www.youtube.com/v/17sq6r9ghO8

https://www.youtube.com/v/IO46H-55gjc

https://www.youtube.com/v/04fvoEdfE7g

Some of my favorite jolivet works.

[Symphonic Addict]

Today I discovered his Serenade for oboe and piano and Suite Liturgique for chorus, oboe, cello and harp from these recordings respectively:



Very cool stuff, above all the singular Suite Liturgique. The chorus provides a mystic effect to the music and the result is quite beautiful. The Serenade for oboe and piano features more piquant gestures and it's a lot of fun, mostly for the movements Caprice and Marche burlesque.