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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2011, 02:52:30 AM »
I just upped a live perf of Dallapiccola's 'Marsia' ballet (1943) in good audio, BBC Phil and Noseda from this year:

http://www.4shared.com/file/-Js3TP8q/Dallapiccola_-_Marsia__complet.html
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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2011, 07:38:24 AM »
Would anyone like to Totally Convince Me concerning that Erato (Apex)/Zender disc? It's aaaalways been on the radar.

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2011, 05:04:45 AM »
Would anyone like to Totally Convince Me concerning that Erato (Apex)/Zender disc? It's aaaalways been on the radar.

Be Totally Convinced. It contains Dallapiccola's greatest pieces (IMO - the Greek Lyrics) and the couplings are marvellous. It is by far my favourite Dallapiccola disc; in fact, it is one of my favourite discs of anything.

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2011, 06:03:50 AM »
Be Totally Convinced. It contains Dallapiccola's greatest pieces (IMO - the Greek Lyrics) and the couplings are marvellous. It is by far my favourite Dallapiccola disc; in fact, it is one of my favourite discs of anything.

Uncle,... Uncle!! I surrender!!

The only problem I'm having is that I'm addicted to original issues, and this one is currently more expensive than the Apex re-issue. Ahh,... you should all have my problems, haha!!

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2011, 06:18:54 AM »
For those wonderful Greek Lyrics there's a beautiful alternative version by Elisabeth Söderström here, among a lot more vintage Dallapiccola:
http://highponytail.blogspot.com/search/label/Dallapiccola
Thanks a lot for the Marsia link, Amfortas.
Apart from warmly endorsing all these Dallapiccola recommendations, I'd like to plug the most insightful book on opera I have ever read:
Dallapiccola On Opera Toccata press. You can find this at a low price secondhand on Amazon.
 
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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2011, 07:41:16 PM »
For those wonderful Greek Lyrics there's a beautiful alternative version by Elisabeth Söderström here, among a lot more vintage Dallapiccola:
http://highponytail.blogspot.com/search/label/Dallapiccola
Thanks a lot for the Marsia link, Amfortas.
Apart from warmly endorsing all these Dallapiccola recommendations, I'd like to plug the most insightful book on opera I have ever read:
Dallapiccola On Opera Toccata press. You can find this at a low price secondhand on Amazon.

I hear they make good pasta too!! ;) ;D Huh!

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #46 on: July 24, 2011, 05:44:18 AM »

Thanks a lot for the Marsia link, Amfortas.
 

You're welcome  :)
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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2011, 07:30:56 AM »
Be Totally Convinced. It contains Dallapiccola's greatest pieces (IMO - the Greek Lyrics) and the couplings are marvellous. It is by far my favourite Dallapiccola disc; in fact, it is one of my favourite discs of anything.

Finally got that Zender/Erato=Apex disc!

I REALLY liked the Canti di Prigionia, just perfect, austere music. The rest of the cd seems to go by pretty quickly. Some definitely reminds me of Xenakis in Greek-mode (Tempus destruendi-). There is a very 'clean' feeling here, very white and pure.

I'm putting it next to the Stravinsky 'Sacred Works' 2cd/Sony. Along with recent Penderecki acquisitions, I've satisfied my thoroughly-uninterested-in-choir-music itch, with choices that I can actually perhaps grow with. I'm still having difficulty with the classical world's interpretation of vibrato (bass solos and such), but I try to imagine the works as sung by angels.

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2011, 07:50:25 AM »
Here is the track listing forthe Zender CD:

1. Canti Di Prigionia 
2. Cinque Frammenti Di Saffo 
3. Due Liriche Di Anacreonte 
4. Sex Carmina Alcaei 
5. Tempus Destruendi - Tempus Aedificandi 
6. Due Cori Di Michelangelo Buonarroti Il Giovane 

Which one is the Greek Lyrics? Track 2-6?
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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2011, 07:40:54 PM »
Here is the track listing forthe Zender CD:

1. Canti Di Prigionia 
2. Cinque Frammenti Di Saffo 
3. Due Liriche Di Anacreonte 
4. Sex Carmina Alcaei 
5. Tempus Destruendi - Tempus Aedificandi 
6. Due Cori Di Michelangelo Buonarroti Il Giovane 

Which one is the Greek Lyrics? Track 2-6?

No.5 there is the one I thought sounded like Xenakis. 5-6 are solo choir. 2-4 went by so quick, and I haven't listened again yet, but... what were you asking? :-[ ;D

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2011, 10:12:23 AM »
Here is the track listing forthe Zender CD:

1. Canti Di Prigionia 
2. Cinque Frammenti Di Saffo 
3. Due Liriche Di Anacreonte 
4. Sex Carmina Alcaei 
5. Tempus Destruendi - Tempus Aedificandi 
6. Due Cori Di Michelangelo Buonarroti Il Giovane 

Which one is the Greek Lyrics? Track 2-6?

Almost - tracks 2-4. Incredible stuff.

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2011, 04:17:46 PM »
No one apears to have mentioned Dallapiccola's major choral work-

Canti di Liberazione(1951-55) for chorus and orchestra

I believe that it is currently unavailable on cd?

I would appear to have a recording with the Swedish Radio Symphony Chorus and Orchestra conducted by Sixten Ehrling.

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2011, 04:03:08 PM »
No one apears to have mentioned Dallapiccola's major choral work-

Canti di Liberazione(1951-55) for chorus and orchestra

I believe that it is currently unavailable on cd?

I would appear to have a recording with the Swedish Radio Symphony Chorus and Orchestra conducted by Sixten Ehrling.
There used to be an EMI recording with Ingo Metzmacher, coupled with Karl Amadeus Hartmann's Miserae and Gesangszene, but I imagine it's disappeared into the black void of the deletion list by now.
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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2011, 09:38:36 PM »
There used to be an EMI recording with Ingo Metzmacher, coupled with Karl Amadeus Hartmann's Miserae and Gesangszene, but I imagine it's disappeared into the black void of the deletion list by now.
A live recording with Leon Botstein directing the American Symphony Orchestra and Concert Chorale of New York is available in MP3 format at Amazon:

http://amzn.com/B004TQ05S8

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2013, 12:30:56 PM »
I can't believe none of these Threads have been active. :o

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2013, 12:32:39 PM »
Here is the track listing forthe Zender CD:

1. Canti Di Prigionia 
2. Cinque Frammenti Di Saffo 
3. Due Liriche Di Anacreonte 
4. Sex Carmina Alcaei 
5. Tempus Destruendi - Tempus Aedificandi 
6. Due Cori Di Michelangelo Buonarroti Il Giovane 

Which one is the Greek Lyrics? Track 2-6?

Again, a great disc.

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2013, 02:57:13 AM »
Agreed. Time I revisited it . . . .
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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2013, 06:09:39 PM »
Agreed. Time I revisited it . . . .

Do you have any other Orchestral Dallapiccola (Chandos)? Haven't heard them, but all Dallapiccola has a nobility to it. Question with 2 Answers fits the bill, granitic nobility, spare.

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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2013, 01:17:31 AM »
Two volumes, including the one with that very piece; I do remember thinking highly of it.

It's in my queue to-day!
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Re: Luigi Dallapiccola
« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2013, 01:28:00 AM »
Three Questions with Two Answers. Yes, I remember that works well and remember clearly how, upon first hearing, I was confused since I thought I heard 2 questions and three answers!
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